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Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man

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    Copper
    wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:30 last edited by
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    And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

    At least that was the case a few years ago.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 15:34 last edited by
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      At least you're using commas and stuff now.

      Please love yourself.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 16:06 last edited by Doctor Phibes 2 Jan 2021, 16:06
        #30

        Well, that was fucking weird.

        I was only joking

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        • C Copper
          1 Feb 2021, 15:30

          And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

          At least that was the case a few years ago.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 18:33 last edited by
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          @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

          And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

          At least that was the case a few years ago.

          Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?

          Elbows up!

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          • R Renauda
            1 Feb 2021, 18:33

            @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

            And some states allow cemeteries to be defined as public accommodations, others don't. Some say specifically that cemeteries are not public accommodations.

            At least that was the case a few years ago.

            Aside from a attempt at a positivist rationalization of the indefensible, just when might that have been? During the Jim Crow era?

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            Copper
            wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 18:53 last edited by
            #32

            No, within a few years and currently

            Private entities can generally do whatever they want concerning who they associate or don’t associate with.

            Historically black universities are an example of this, they can limit enrollment to black students

            The Burning Tree club in Maryland is an example of an all-male club, many members of Congress belong to this club

            Public entities or those defined as public accommodations cannot decide to restrict their membership in the same way

            I’m no expert on this, but I can tell you that this thread is a good example of how there is a lot of ignorance concerning this topic, people just love to shout Jim Crow and racist but in general it is ok for you to associate with whoever you want especially in private.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 19:30 last edited by
              #33

              I'd stop digging, if I were you.

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                1 Feb 2021, 19:30

                I'd stop digging, if I were you.

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                Copper
                wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 19:44 last edited by
                #34

                @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                No need

                But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 19:46 last edited by
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                  The right to associate or not to associate is real, but when it comes to organizations not unlimited, usually based on size and exactly how one discriminates in membership. But it is real.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    1 Feb 2021, 15:15

                    Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 20:03 last edited by
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                    @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                    Doesn't anybody find it the least bit surprising that a cemetery could have this rule in place for decades, and apparently nobody noticed until now?

                    Not in Oberlin.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • C Copper
                      1 Feb 2021, 19:44

                      @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                      I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                      No need

                      But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                      I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 20:46 last edited by
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                      @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                      @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                      I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                      No need

                      But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                      I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                      I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

                      I was only joking

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 20:48 last edited by
                        #38

                        Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • M Mik
                          1 Feb 2021, 20:48

                          Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 20:59 last edited by
                          #39

                          @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                          Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                          Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                          I was only joking

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 21:22 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2021, 21:28
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                            Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.

                            As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.

                            As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              1 Feb 2021, 20:46

                              @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                              No need

                              But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                              I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                              I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 21:25 last edited by
                              #41

                              @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              @copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                              I'd stop digging, if I were you.

                              No need

                              But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want

                              I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint

                              I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.

                              Get this

                              I am neither for nor against diversity in this forum

                              Sorry, I’m sure you’ll be crawling around looking for your pearls for a while.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                1 Feb 2021, 20:59

                                @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:02 last edited by
                                #42

                                @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                Are you daydrinking?

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  1 Feb 2021, 22:02

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                  Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                  Are you daydrinking?

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:05 last edited by
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                                  @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                  Are you daydrinking?

                                  I am, NTTAWWT.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • M Mik
                                    1 Feb 2021, 22:02

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                    Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                    Are you daydrinking?

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:58 last edited by
                                    #44

                                    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                    Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                    Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                    Are you daydrinking?

                                    Do you think it would help?

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      1 Feb 2021, 22:58

                                      @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      @mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                      Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?

                                      Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.

                                      Are you daydrinking?

                                      Do you think it would help?

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:00 last edited by
                                      #45

                                      @doctor-phibes probably.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • R Renauda
                                        1 Feb 2021, 21:22

                                        Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.

                                        As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.

                                        As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:22 last edited by
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                                        @renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                        Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.

                                        As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.

                                        As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.

                                        That makes it more interesting and launches this issue into my wheelhouse. I've been involved with cemetery stuff at the church for the last couple of years. If it's a private cemetery, the by-laws apply and not public accommodation laws.

                                        Right or wrong, the 81 year-old lady was pointing out what was on the books. Don't like it? Bring it before the church and have the rules changed.

                                        And apparently, that's what happened. You can now all dig your panties out of the crack of your collective asses....

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          1 Feb 2021, 23:22

                                          @renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:

                                          Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.

                                          As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.

                                          As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.

                                          That makes it more interesting and launches this issue into my wheelhouse. I've been involved with cemetery stuff at the church for the last couple of years. If it's a private cemetery, the by-laws apply and not public accommodation laws.

                                          Right or wrong, the 81 year-old lady was pointing out what was on the books. Don't like it? Bring it before the church and have the rules changed.

                                          And apparently, that's what happened. You can now all dig your panties out of the crack of your collective asses....

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:29 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2021, 23:29
                                          #47

                                          @jolly ....and it took what and how long since the 1960s for them to review their books?

                                          Thought so.

                                          You sort your own laundry out.

                                          Elbows up!

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