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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • A Axtremus
    22 days ago

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

    Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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    @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

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    • A Axtremus
      22 days ago

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

      Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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      @Axtremus said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

      Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

      What kind of democracy is it that votes on bills that are too big to read?

      I was only joking

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      • T taiwan_girl
        22 days ago

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          jon-nyc
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          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            22 days ago

            @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

            @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

            That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

            @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

            @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

            That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

            “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

            It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

            “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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              David Sacks will talk JSL MTG off the ledge on this one.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                Maybe this is our chance to end the omnibus bill.

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  22 days ago

                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                  That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                  “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

                  It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

                  “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                  That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                  “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

                  It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

                  “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

                  POTD.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • 8 89th
                    22 days ago

                    I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

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                    @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

                    Maybe it’s happening?

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                        22 days ago

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                        89th
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 18:56
                          #66

                          It’s on!

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            wrote 21 days ago last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 22:35
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                            What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                              Talking about bankruptcy around Trump is..........brave, lol.

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                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                                  21 days ago

                                  What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 22:35
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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                  What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                                  Mine is Friday.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    21 days ago

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                    Rand is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                      Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                        I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          22 days ago

                                          @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                          @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                                          That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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                                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                          @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                                          That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                                          Op-Ed by Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, an AI technology company:

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/05/opinion/anthropic-ceo-regulate-transparency.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk8.GCbk.gEk4FB4DnAhU

                                          ... a 10-year moratorium is far too blunt an instrument. A.I. is advancing too head-spinningly fast. I believe that these systems could change the world, fundamentally, within two years; in 10 years, all bets are off. Without a clear plan for a federal response, a moratorium would give us the worst of both worlds — no ability for states to act, and no national policy as a backstop.

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