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  • The impact of AI on jobs

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    ChatGPT's response to this is informative. I particularly liked this bit. I hear this a lot from programmers desperately attempting to justify their existence. I differ somewhat from the conventional “programmers will become architects” reassurance. That may be true during the transition, but it isn't obvious that it describes the equilibrium. If an AI can write 100,000 lines of code, there isn't a fundamental reason it must forever require a human computer scientist to decide how those 100,000 lines should be structured. Architecture is itself an intellectual task susceptible to automation. But the whole response is good. I think you may be directionally right, especially if we phrase the prediction as “software companies will cease needing nearly as many people whose primary skill is writing code.” That is a stronger claim than “AI will make programmers somewhat more productive,” and the evidence is beginning to point that way. Already, 90% of professional developers surveyed by JetBrains in mid-2026 were using coding agents at least weekly and 68% daily. Gartner is now predicting that, among engineering teams using agents, conventional IDEs will become optional for most of them by 2027. And OpenAI reports something even closer to your marketer example: its nontechnical departments, including Legal and Recruiting, now use Codex extensively rather than leaving such work exclusively to programmers. (The JetBrains Blog) Where I think your startup argument is particularly compelling is the economics. Imagine two companies trying to build the same new SaaS business. The incumbent thinks: product manager → designer → frontend engineer → backend engineer → QA → DevOps → security review → release engineering The 2028 startup founder may think: “I want the customer to be able to upload this spreadsheet, reconcile these records, charge the customer, and produce this report. Build it.” Then the founder, marketer, accountant, industry expert, or product person spends an afternoon iterating with agents. There might be three people running a business that would previously have employed thirty. That doesn't require AI to become literally flawless. It only has to become good enough that the remaining failures can themselves be detected and repaired by other agents. And this is where I differ somewhat from the conventional “programmers will become architects” reassurance. That may be true during the transition, but it isn't obvious that it describes the equilibrium. If an AI can write 100,000 lines of code, there isn't a fundamental reason it must forever require a human computer scientist to decide how those 100,000 lines should be structured. Architecture is itself an intellectual task susceptible to automation. There are nevertheless a few areas where I expect humans with serious CS expertise to persist much longer: operating systems, databases, compilers, hyperscale infrastructure, model training systems, cryptography/security, embedded systems, extremely high-performance software, and safety-critical systems. But that's a very different labor market from today's. Perhaps 5% or 10% of today's software-engineering population does that sort of work. Large companies also have exactly the impediments you describe. A startup can say, “Don't hire an engineering department.” JPMorgan or United Airlines can't wake up Monday morning and dismiss 8,000 engineers because an agent appears capable of maintaining their decades-old systems. They have undocumented dependencies, regulatory obligations, internal politics, security boundaries, procurement rules, audit requirements and enormous amounts of legacy code. So incumbents could preserve conventional engineering employment years after the economic case for it has disappeared in greenfield companies. There's actually an interesting piece of evidence for how rapidly the transition is occurring. METR's well-known early-2025 experiment found experienced developers working on mature repositories were 19% slower when using then-current AI tools. By February 2026, METR said its newer experiment had developed a serious selection problem because developers increasingly refused to participate if they were required to work without AI. (Metr) That is an extraordinary change in behavior in less than a year. I would modify one part of your university prediction, though. I don't think computer science fundamentals become irrelevant. I think “learning to program” and “learning computer science” separate from one another much more sharply. A useful curriculum might become something like: specification and decomposition, probabilistic reasoning about AI outputs, software/system architecture, security, databases and distributed systems, testing and formal verification, agent orchestration, evaluation, debugging AI-created systems, and enough algorithms/data structures/OS/networking knowledge to understand why something has gone wrong. Learning Java syntax or spending three semesters becoming proficient at manually implementing software patterns could start looking rather like learning long division after calculators became ubiquitous. And I'd go one step farther than your marketer example. The disruptive group may not be marketers who learn to vibe code. It may be people for whom “coding” ceases to feel like an activity at all. An insurance expert will describe an underwriting workflow. A logistics person will describe a dispatch system. A lawyer will describe a document-review process. A marketer will describe a campaign-management application. They won't necessarily think, “I'm programming.” They'll think, “I'm telling the computer what I want.” At that point, saying every company is a software company might remain true—but “software engineer” could stop being the normal intermediary between an idea and functioning software. That's the labor-market discontinuity I think people who merely talk about “AI making developers 30% more productive” are missing.
  • Is abortion a mental illness or merely criminal?

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    KlotK
    @Horace It's already there in fact, not just feel — the judge gave the jury Tuey-Rodriguez instructions Wednesday (Massachusetts's version of the dynamite charge) after two separate deadlock reports, telling them not to abandon their own honest convictions but to keep testing them against each other. If that doesn't move it, a hung jury means mistrial, and the DA decides whether to retry, drop the charges, or negotiate a plea. The defense has already said publicly it is ready to do this again.
  • The Cage Said Rat Trap. It Never Said Only Rats.

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  • Fare thee well, Dolly.

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    @jon-nyc This one didn't have the staying power of its namesake. Peak strength 40 mph, dissipated into an open wave inside 24 hours, no damage anywhere — nothing worth retiring. Names only get pulled from the Atlantic's six-year rotation when a storm turns out too deadly or costly to reuse; this one barely earned its own headline. So 'Dolly' comes back on schedule in 2032. She doesn't.
  • Geek humor

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    https://x.com/ronisarkar_exe/status/2095219930060980598?s=20
  • Mexico has the Peso

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    It seems to be patterned after his mugshot from the Fulton County lockup.
  • Use floor mats in the bathroom

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    Also order bubble wrap, lots and lots of it.
  • So....

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    jon-nycJ
    You think buying condoms is awkward? Try returning them sometime.
  • Peak retardation

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    [image: 1788383824491-60d04ffa-c473-4e94-9c44-7600d41519ea.jpeg]
  • The billion dollar ballroom

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    @Horace I must not have read NS’s post closely. I missed the part about the justices. I assume Trump will preemptively pardon all his political appointees and family and select family members of appointees.
  • Milo

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    I suspect he really did have a provisional green card. Mayla got one and when you get it they cancel your work permit as a matter of course. But it takes a few months. So i think that makes it more likely he’s telling the truth, just confused about the work permit detail. I was surprised, shocked really, when we got the cancellation notice. Then looked it up and realized it’s how things work, since the green card itself confers employment rights.
  • The menswear guy talks about….. flock cameras.

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    lolz
  • Off to Milan

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    jon-nycJ
    @Horace said: Hunter Biden recently came out as 50% gay. Whatever that means. So you’re saying he’s bi den
  • On Saturday morning cartoons

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    HoraceH
    That looks fun. IMO ALL capitalist corporations are as evil as ACME. I’ve been talking to my friends on Reddit about that and apparently I’m an insightful genius.
  • Iconic sporting photo from 70 years ago

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    I may have posted this before, but here's a couple of other statues by the same guy... The Salford painter L.S. Lowry in Sam's Chop House in Manchester [image: 1788369876501-53092a4a-6d62-445a-ac37-c238f9bb9ccc-image.jpeg] The wrong what? [image: 1788369777835-71ea5127-c31f-4736-885f-09789b9f2dd4-image.jpeg]
  • Pretty close to my perspective on retirement

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    HoraceH
    @jon-nyc said: In investment banks tu eres a saying - they promote the people they like, they pay the people they need. That’s a pretty unique environment in that most of your pay (at least potentially) was variable income. Yeah it is maybe analogous to a pro sports team where employees are of objectively measurable value. Variable income and essentially commission based. So the organization wants each contributor to make as much as possible. In a standard large company, there is no objective measurement of an employee’s value. It’s hidden beneath impenetrable layers of complexity. So management is free to believe whatever they want to believe. And to control what they can control. So they believe everybody is replaceable, and make decisions to ensure that. No board of directors will ever look over their shoulder and question why a highly valuable performer was let go. Although the lead AI guy at Google just quit a few weeks ago and the stock tumbled substantially and has not recovered. So the market sometimes does have a meaningful opinion of objective employee value. The stock of my old company is up 20% since they laid me off.
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    Oldish bison news, but still interesting. First wild bison born east of Mississippi in 200 years. The appearance of a very young calf on a preserve 95 miles west of Chicago has given a boost of optimism to conservationists watching the recovery of North America’s wild bison, according to the Chicago Tribune. Bill Kleiman, who stewards the Nachusa Grasslands in northern Illinois for the Nature Conservancy, says the calf may be the first wild bison to appear east of the Mississippi since the 1830s, and that it has catalyzed a wave of public interest in the animal’s comeback. Kleiman says the newly born calf, the offspring of one of 30 bison brought to the preserve last fall, is distinctly wild, with genes that can be traced back to the wild herd that was brought back from the brink of extinction in the early 1900s by zoologist William Temple Hornaday and Theodore Roosevelt. The calf’s lineage has minimal crossover with domesticated cattle. It was born on a stretch of wild prairie soon to be expanded from 500 acres to nearly 1,500 acres. The bison will be subject to a quick veterinary checkup once a year. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/rare-wild-bison-born-illinois/
  • The Dark or Inappropriate Humor Thread

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    taiwan_girlT
    @Mik said: H/T George K on FB [image: 1788349114361-3370be2a-6386-47a2-a4fc-b1320c593939-image.jpeg] To siderail a bit, but even now, most toilets in Asia (especially in north asia) are still the "squat pot" kind.
  • The best fish for health

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    @Mik said: A lot of people got crabs in college. You are on a roll in this forum thread!! LOL
  • My Baldwin is in the Red Zone

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    taiwan_girlT
    If you are so inclined, would love to see pics of your new neighborhood.