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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

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    @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

    @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

    That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

        That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

        “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

        It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

        “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

        The Brad

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          David Sacks will talk JSL MTG off the ledge on this one.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Maybe this is our chance to end the omnibus bill.

            The Brad

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              @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

              @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

              @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

              That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

              “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

              It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

              “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

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              @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

              @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

              @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

              @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

              That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

              “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

              It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

              “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

              POTD.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • 89th8 89th

                I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

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                @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

                Maybe it’s happening?

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                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.

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                      It’s on!

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                        What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                          Talking about bankruptcy around Trump is..........brave, lol.

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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                              @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                              What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                              Mine is Friday.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                Rand is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

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                                  Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                      @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                                      That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                      @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                                      That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                                      Op-Ed by Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, an AI technology company:

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/05/opinion/anthropic-ceo-regulate-transparency.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk8.GCbk.gEk4FB4DnAhU

                                      ... a 10-year moratorium is far too blunt an instrument. A.I. is advancing too head-spinningly fast. I believe that these systems could change the world, fundamentally, within two years; in 10 years, all bets are off. Without a clear plan for a federal response, a moratorium would give us the worst of both worlds — no ability for states to act, and no national policy as a backstop.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                        Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                                        Considering how poorly the CBO projected the 2017 TCJA, why should we trust their numbers this time?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                                          IMG_5684.jpeg

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                                          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                          I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow …

                                          https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25#cmbjkbhvx00053b6s86gyygp9

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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