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  • 89th8 Offline
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    I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

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      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

      Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

        Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

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        @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

          Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

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          @Axtremus said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill

          Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.

          What kind of democracy is it that votes on bills that are too big to read?

          I was only joking

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            @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

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            @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

            @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

            That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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                @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

                It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

                “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

                The Brad

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                  David Sacks will talk JSL MTG off the ledge on this one.

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    Maybe this is our chance to end the omnibus bill.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                      That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                      “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

                      It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

                      “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                      @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                      That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                      “I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”

                      It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?

                      “Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”

                      POTD.

                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

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                        @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                        I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

                        Maybe it’s happening?

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            89th8 Offline
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                            @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                            This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.

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                              It’s on!

                              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  Talking about bankruptcy around Trump is..........brave, lol.

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                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                      What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                                      Mine is Friday.

                                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                        Rand is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

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                                          Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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