The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.
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Another area this comes up is in belief in free speech. I am guessing Trump haters on twitter are all but unanimous that Musk does not care one bit about free speech, and that he only uses that messaging to cynically appeal to his tribe. Again, a rhetorical binary. Meanwhile, on the continuum of actual belief in free speech, I believe Musk tends towards actual belief, even while his practical choices have to weigh lots of confounding factors against that belief.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
I'm very much looking forward to the Presidential response.
Of course, he's blaming this on Congress not the guy who he loves more than any white man in the western world.
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I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill
Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill
Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill
Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.
@Axtremus said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-trump-tax-bill
Greene revealed she was unaware of a provision in Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill act (OBBB) that would prevent states from regulating artificial intelligence systems for a decade. The Georgia representative said she would have voted against the entire bill if she had known about the AI language buried on pages 278-279.
What kind of democracy is it that votes on bills that are too big to read?
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@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
@taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?
@jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?
“I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”
It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?
“Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”
The Brad
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Maybe this is our chance to end the omnibus bill.
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@jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?
“I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”
It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?
“Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”
@LuFins-Dad said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
@Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.
That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?
“I am Grok, they/them, how may I help?”
It’s a pleasure, Grok! Could you please cite for me the median age of first time homebuyers In the US by year and show a chart documenting these numbers?
“Sure thing. But first, we have to acknowledge that the land these homes are built on originally belonged to the Native Americans that lived here before colonialists forced them out of their ancestral lands. It’s also important to note that the number of transgendered home buyers might be higher than supposed as many people that would have been transgendered had puberty forcibly imposed on them, and we really need to consider giving all children puberty blockers prophylacticly until we can be sure they have selected the appropriate gender.”
POTD.
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I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.
@89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.
Maybe it’s happening?
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@jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:
This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.
