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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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    89th
    wrote on 19 May 2025, 19:38 last edited by
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    Even in the minor details she is lying. "The economic council (of whatever) said this will save $1.6 trillion. That's the most ever... The next bill that has come close is $800 billion, which is less than half that of $1.6 trillion"

    No, it is not less than half. It is exactly half.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 May 2025, 19:39 last edited by
      #15

      Even her lies are lies.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        89th
        wrote on 19 May 2025, 19:41 last edited by
        #16

        Hahaha well said.

        BTW for anyone keeping score, the estimate is this bill will, over the next 10 years, add between $3.8 to $5.3 trillion to the deficit.

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          89th
          wrote on 19 May 2025, 19:43 last edited by
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          Oh and the "Council of Economic Advisers"... not a 3rd party independent audit firm. It's a group of people Trump hired over the last few months to basically nod their heads to him.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 May 2025, 19:48 last edited by
            #18

            Rand Paul is having none of it.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 20 May 2025, 00:07 last edited by
              #19

              Did he lose 4 GOP senators?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 20 May 2025, 00:23 last edited by jon-nyc
                #20

                "This tax bill's enormity is being underplayed," Manhattan Institute's Jessica Riedl says. "This tax bill will cost more than the 2017 tax cuts, the CARES Act, Biden's stimulus, and the Inflation Reduction Act combined.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 01:35 last edited by
                  #21

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    17 May 2025, 05:33

                    US gets its debt downgraded.

                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/moodys-downgrades-us-aa1-rating-2025-05-16/

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 12:35 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    US gets its debt downgraded.

                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/moodys-downgrades-us-aa1-rating-2025-05-16/

                    House GOP whistled past the downgrade and passed the Big Beautiful Bill anyway.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 13:38 last edited by
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 14:20 last edited by
                        #24

                        Main Street will get tariffs at least.

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                          22 May 2025, 13:38

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 18:53 last edited by
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                          @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

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                          I’d be curious to see their work…

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 22 May 2025, 19:10 last edited by
                            #26

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 23 May 2025, 12:03 last edited by jon-nyc
                              #27

                              There are jokes going around bond markets about Big Beautiful Bill.

                              BBB is the lowest credit rating you can have before junk status.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 23 May 2025, 17:40 last edited by jon-nyc
                                #28

                                Just so we’re clear.

                                BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 17:59 last edited by
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                                  LOL

                                  I look at a couple of forums about thailand and there are starting to complaints from expat retirees about how their money has lost XX% vs the Thai baht.

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                                    23 May 2025, 17:40

                                    Just so we’re clear.

                                    BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 21:34 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                    Just so we’re clear.

                                    BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

                                    The cheek of those “other countries”, eh?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 23:14 last edited by
                                      #31

                                      It’s so great of them to make other countries great again, too!

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 25 May 2025, 18:36 last edited by
                                        #32

                                        DOA?

                                        https://www.axios.com/2025/05/25/ron-johnson-senate-halt-house-budget-bill

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 25 May 2025, 19:06 last edited by
                                          #33

                                          You know, Republican budget hawks might have an opportunity to finally push through legitimate entitlement reform.

                                          The Brad

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