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The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Even in the minor details she is lying. "The economic council (of whatever) said this will save $1.6 trillion. That's the most ever... The next bill that has come close is $800 billion, which is less than half that of $1.6 trillion"

    No, it is not less than half. It is exactly half.

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      jon-nyc
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      #15

      Even her lies are lies.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #16

        Hahaha well said.

        BTW for anyone keeping score, the estimate is this bill will, over the next 10 years, add between $3.8 to $5.3 trillion to the deficit.

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          Oh and the "Council of Economic Advisers"... not a 3rd party independent audit firm. It's a group of people Trump hired over the last few months to basically nod their heads to him.

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            #18

            Rand Paul is having none of it.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              #19

              Did he lose 4 GOP senators?

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                #20

                "This tax bill's enormity is being underplayed," Manhattan Institute's Jessica Riedl says. "This tax bill will cost more than the 2017 tax cuts, the CARES Act, Biden's stimulus, and the Inflation Reduction Act combined.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    US gets its debt downgraded.

                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/moodys-downgrades-us-aa1-rating-2025-05-16/

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    US gets its debt downgraded.

                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/moodys-downgrades-us-aa1-rating-2025-05-16/

                    House GOP whistled past the downgrade and passed the Big Beautiful Bill anyway.

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                        #24

                        Main Street will get tariffs at least.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • 89th8 89th

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                          @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

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                          I’d be curious to see their work…

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
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                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              #27

                              There are jokes going around bond markets about Big Beautiful Bill.

                              BBB is the lowest credit rating you can have before junk status.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                #28

                                Just so we’re clear.

                                BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  LOL

                                  I look at a couple of forums about thailand and there are starting to complaints from expat retirees about how their money has lost XX% vs the Thai baht.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Just so we’re clear.

                                    BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                                    Just so we’re clear.

                                    BESSENT: OTHER COUNTRIES' CURRENCIES RISING, NOT DOLLAR FALLING

                                    The cheek of those “other countries”, eh?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      It’s so great of them to make other countries great again, too!

                                      The Brad

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                                        DOA?

                                        https://www.axios.com/2025/05/25/ron-johnson-senate-halt-house-budget-bill

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          You know, Republican budget hawks might have an opportunity to finally push through legitimate entitlement reform.

                                          The Brad

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