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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1154

    @jon-nyc said:

    I hope they gamed it out well and have a plan for what they’ll do if a Russian or Chinese naval vessel tries to escort a tanker out.

    I was thinking the same.

    Elbows up!

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #1155

      So the Navy announced a blockade of Iranian ports but specifically disavowed Trump’s stated intention of blockading the strait as a whole.

      This is better that’s for sure.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #1156

        First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

        The commies are winning.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

        Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

        Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #1157

          Confrontation is set.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #1158

            Exactly how would the US blockade work? I mean in actual terms. Shooting torpedoes at any boat that tries to cross the red rover red rover line?

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #1159

              I think they instruct them to stop and return with the implied threat of violence if they don’t. I think the next step is boarding the vessel if it’s commercial.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                AndyD
                wrote on last edited by
                #1160

                Whatever worked for Venezuela.
                Certainly stay at a reasonably safe distance but where you can respond to intelligence quickly. The seas to the south of the Strait.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  First, Putin's Russia benefits from higher oil prices and relaxed sanctions on Russian oil, now China's renewable energy business gets a boost.

                  The commies are winning.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/business/energy-environment/china-energy-battery-grid.html?unlocked_article_code=1.alA.rW-a.Z3d9kgOfzttP

                  Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                  Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

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                  Tom-K
                  wrote on last edited by Tom-K
                  #1161

                  @Axtremus said:

                  Now the war with Iran has laid bare the risks of reliance on Middle Eastern oil and gas. Countries are realizing that all paths to renewable power run through China and its exporters.

                  Even if a cease-fire between the United States and Iran helps ease disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz, the shock has already grabbed the attention of governments worldwide. Faced with energy shortages, they are accelerating efforts to upgrade their power grids, bringing them to the doorstep of Chinese companies eager to supply them.

                  So what? China runs out of oil on June 8th. Ryan McBeth--a good analysis.

                  Link to video

                  Bottom line is this war (except for a few dollars at the pump) isn't hurting me at all. Maybe higher prices for delivery of some things later on--but I'm not seeing a personal downside from the whole thing. And--some stocks are up and some are down. Overall I see a bit of a loss but that's a random occurrence anyway.

                  Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Confrontation is set.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1162

                    jon-nyc said:

                    Confrontation is set.

                    This was deleted for lack of verification. Good news.

                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1163

                      Hahahahahahahaha

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1164

                        Before you know it he’ll be negotiating Obama’s old JCPOA back into existence.

                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1165

                          You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            You wonder how much this frustrates those who have dedicated their lives to middle east strategy, war games, policies, only to have Trump one day while eating a Big Mac say with a stuffed mouth "Hey, why don't we just bomb them and then send vulgar tweets with bluff threats?"

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                            #1166

                            @89th He really lacks a long term vision on so many things. Or maybe he thinks he does but is not able to make the necessary connections and potential consequences. Or maybe a combination of the above.

                            But, long term vision for a politician is not easy, whether it is President Trump or somebody else They rarely look past the next election.

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                              bachophile
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1167

                              So S&P back to pre war levels. Will the bull market bounce back?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1168

                                I’m not complaining

                                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1169

                                  S&P hit a new high today.

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1170

                                    im not complaining either

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/business/stocks-record-iran-war.html

                                    “The market is trading assuming we have seen the worst of the conflict,” said Stefano Pascale, an equity analyst at Barclays."

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                                    • Tom-KT Offline
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                                      Tom-K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1171

                                      There are a lot of big energy and energy related companies on the S and P. And wars tend to stimulate the economy at least in the short term. Also there might be some Trump Fatigue Syndrome. Anyway, all good.

                                      Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1172

                                        Delivered in pallets, no doubt.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #1173

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/even-iran-s-european-appeasers-now-can-t-deny-the-ayatollahs-are-losing/ar-AA218q72

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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