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  • 8 89th
    21 days ago

    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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    Horace
    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

    It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Horace
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      I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

      Education is extremely important.

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        21 days ago

        @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

        It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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        @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

        It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

        There are also questions about that new ultradense concrete, though how much could have been poured between levels in the few years since it was developed is questionable.

        The Brad

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        • H Horace
          21 days ago

          I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

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          89th
          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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          @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

          You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

          https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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          • 8 89th
            21 days ago

            @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

            You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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            Horace
            wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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            @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

            You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

            That is great.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • 8 89th
              21 days ago

              That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote 21 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
              #514

              @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

              It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?

              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                Mik
                wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  Mik
                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                  Good piece from Haaretz.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                    #517

                    That was very helpful

                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      Mik
                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                      I thought so too.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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                        @Mik Yes, quite interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                          A contrarian take:

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                            But Frum has a good point:

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              Horace
                              wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                              If America and Israel just pretended to surrender to a retarded country, would it actually feel bad? Does letting a five year old win at checkers feel bad?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                20 days ago

                                A contrarian take:

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                A contrarian take:

                                And Elon replied in that thread. 🤔

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8zv8j563po

                                  Iranian authorities have carried out a wave of arrests and multiple executions of people suspected of links to Israeli intelligence agencies, in the wake of the recent war between the two countries.

                                  It comes after what officials describe as an unprecedented infiltration of Iranian security services by Israeli agents.

                                  Authorities suspect information fed to Israel played a part in a series of high-profile assassinations during the conflict. This included the targeted killings of senior commanders from the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and nuclear scientists, which Iran attributes to operatives of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency working inside the country.

                                  Shaken by the scale and precision of these killings, authorities have been targeting anyone suspected of working with foreign intelligence, saying it is for the sake of national security.

                                  But many fear this is also a way to silence dissent and tighten control over the population.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                                    https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-crackdown-deepens-speedy-executions-arrests/story?id=123253547

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                                      Im sure that it will take some time to know how much damage was done. I am not sure I would believe anything coming from the Iran officials right now.

                                      The United States obtained intercepted communication between senior Iranian officials discussing this month’s U.S. military strikes on Iran’s nuclear program and remarking that the attack was less devastating than they had expected, said four people familiar with the classified intelligence circulating within the U.S. government.

                                      The communication, intended to be private, included Iranian government officials speculating as to why the strikes directed by President Donald Trump were not as destructive and extensive as they had anticipated, these people said. Like some others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/29/trump-iran-nuclear-damage-intercepted-call/

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                                        Nah. Nothing unconfirmed out of Tehran is credible on its face. But I would not be a bit surprised if it were true.

                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote 11 days ago last edited by
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                                          Could it be?

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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