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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    Our problem is no believable source.

    Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

    MikM Away
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    Mik
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    @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    Our problem is no believable source.

    Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

    I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Our problem is no believable source.

      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

      I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

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      89th
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      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Our problem is no believable source.

      Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

      I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

      Hard comparison. There was no doubt in my mind when Obama said we got Bin Laden. If Trump said the same, I would believe him too since it's pretty clear whether we got an individual. But in this case about destroying a nuclear facility 80 meters under ground, I very much do not trust what Trump says based on his very consistent track record of lying and exaggerating. I think we made that point a few weeks ago here, that Trump will be hard to trust on war matters, and we're seeing it here. I know one thing... it would be awkward as shit if footage is released of Fordow still operating.

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        That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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          @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

          Rolled in what way(s)?

          I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          In all the ways one can get rolled.

          Reminds me of Jack Dawson, who saved Rose in all the ways a person can be saved.

          Link to video

          Education is extremely important.

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            That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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            @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

            That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

            It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

            Education is extremely important.

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              I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

              Education is extremely important.

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                @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

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                @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

                There are also questions about that new ultradense concrete, though how much could have been poured between levels in the few years since it was developed is questionable.

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                  I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

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                  @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                  You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                    You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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                    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                    You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

                    That is great.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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                      @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                      It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Good piece from Haaretz.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            That was very helpful

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • MikM Away
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                              I thought so too.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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