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  • 89th8 89th

    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

    You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

    You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

    That is great.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • 89th8 89th

      That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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      @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

      It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          Good piece from Haaretz.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            That was very helpful

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • MikM Offline
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              I thought so too.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                @Mik Yes, quite interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.

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                  A contrarian take:

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    But Frum has a good point:

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      If America and Israel just pretended to surrender to a retarded country, would it actually feel bad? Does letting a five year old win at checkers feel bad?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        A contrarian take:

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                        @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                        A contrarian take:

                        And Elon replied in that thread. 🤔

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                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8zv8j563po

                          Iranian authorities have carried out a wave of arrests and multiple executions of people suspected of links to Israeli intelligence agencies, in the wake of the recent war between the two countries.

                          It comes after what officials describe as an unprecedented infiltration of Iranian security services by Israeli agents.

                          Authorities suspect information fed to Israel played a part in a series of high-profile assassinations during the conflict. This included the targeted killings of senior commanders from the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and nuclear scientists, which Iran attributes to operatives of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency working inside the country.

                          Shaken by the scale and precision of these killings, authorities have been targeting anyone suspected of working with foreign intelligence, saying it is for the sake of national security.

                          But many fear this is also a way to silence dissent and tighten control over the population.

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                            https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-crackdown-deepens-speedy-executions-arrests/story?id=123253547

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              Im sure that it will take some time to know how much damage was done. I am not sure I would believe anything coming from the Iran officials right now.

                              The United States obtained intercepted communication between senior Iranian officials discussing this month’s U.S. military strikes on Iran’s nuclear program and remarking that the attack was less devastating than they had expected, said four people familiar with the classified intelligence circulating within the U.S. government.

                              The communication, intended to be private, included Iranian government officials speculating as to why the strikes directed by President Donald Trump were not as destructive and extensive as they had anticipated, these people said. Like some others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/29/trump-iran-nuclear-damage-intercepted-call/

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                                Nah. Nothing unconfirmed out of Tehran is credible on its face. But I would not be a bit surprised if it were true.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  Could it be?

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      That would be one hell of an Independence Day present.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/world/middleeast/ayatollah-khamenei-iran-israel.html

                                        "Khamenei Appears in Public for First Time Since Israel War Began"

                                        🤷

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                                          Open letter from Gallant to the Ayatollah

                                          https://generalyoavgallant.substack.com/p/a-letter-from-general-gallant-to?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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