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    Mik
    wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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    Well, missiles are rather phallic.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      jon-nyc
      wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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      Trump clears it all up for us.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • A Axtremus
        29 days ago

        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        Our problem is no believable source.

        Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

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        Mik
        wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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        @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

        Our problem is no believable source.

        Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

        I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • M Mik
          29 days ago

          @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          Our problem is no believable source.

          Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

          I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

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          89th
          wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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          @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

          Our problem is no believable source.

          Do you miss the day when Obama announced "we got Bin Laden" on TV and the world just believed him?

          I didn't really believe it until it was verified by DNA. I feel similarly here, but no DNA applies.

          Hard comparison. There was no doubt in my mind when Obama said we got Bin Laden. If Trump said the same, I would believe him too since it's pretty clear whether we got an individual. But in this case about destroying a nuclear facility 80 meters under ground, I very much do not trust what Trump says based on his very consistent track record of lying and exaggerating. I think we made that point a few weeks ago here, that Trump will be hard to trust on war matters, and we're seeing it here. I know one thing... it would be awkward as shit if footage is released of Fordow still operating.

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            89th
            wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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            That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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            • J jon-nyc
              24 Jun 2025, 02:11

              @Axtremus said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              Why do I feel like Trump is about to get rolled?

              Rolled in what way(s)?

              I purposefully wasn't specific. In all the ways one can get rolled.

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              Horace
              wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

              In all the ways one can get rolled.

              Reminds me of Jack Dawson, who saved Rose in all the ways a person can be saved.

              Link to video

              Education is extremely important.

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              • 8 89th
                29 days ago

                That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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                Horace
                wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Horace
                  wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                  I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    29 days ago

                    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                    It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                    @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                    It seems possible that we dropped the bombs into rock, and that the explosions were mostly contained by rock.

                    There are also questions about that new ultradense concrete, though how much could have been poured between levels in the few years since it was developed is questionable.

                    The Brad

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                    • H Horace
                      29 days ago

                      I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

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                      89th
                      wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                      @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                      You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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                      • 8 89th
                        29 days ago

                        @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                        I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                        You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

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                        Horace
                        wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                        @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                        @Horace said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                        I think this thread presents a good opportunity to reflect on Titanic, the movie, not the real event, which was comparatively boring. It is good to remind ourselves of the power of love, and that rich white males are such douchebags. Carry that thought with you always and you will be saved.

                        You know, it's this type of Titanic movie analysis that really keeps me coming back to the internet.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/comments/18v29ej/in_titanic_on_her_deathbed_instead_of_thinking/

                        That is great.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • 8 89th
                          29 days ago

                          That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote 29 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                          #514

                          @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                          That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

                          It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            Mik
                            wrote 29 days ago last edited by
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                            Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              Mik
                              wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                              Good piece from Haaretz.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                That was very helpful

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                  I thought so too.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                    @Mik Yes, quite interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                      A contrarian take:

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                        But Frum has a good point:

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote 28 days ago last edited by
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                                          If America and Israel just pretended to surrender to a retarded country, would it actually feel bad? Does letting a five year old win at checkers feel bad?

                                          Education is extremely important.

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