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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Massie again.

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    @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    Massie again.

    I’ve always respected the hell out of Maddie, but I do not get his anti-Israel stance.

    The Brad

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      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

      Would it be a terrible surprise if Tehran had acquired one of the Soviet bombs in the 90’s? Primarily as a study resource?

      The Brad

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        One thing I don’t get.. I would have expected an uprising inside of Iran. I mean, first we’ve seen just how successful the Mossad has been at intelligence gathering. We’ve also seen a lot more resistance by the populace over the last few years. I would have expected an internal uprising by this point, perhaps directed by Israeli agents in. The country.

        The Brad

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          There's no internet, the city is getting bombed and Trump warned everyone to evacuate. It's hard to agitate under those conditions.

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            One thing I don’t get.. I would have expected an uprising inside of Iran. I mean, first we’ve seen just how successful the Mossad has been at intelligence gathering. We’ve also seen a lot more resistance by the populace over the last few years. I would have expected an internal uprising by this point, perhaps directed by Israeli agents in. The country.

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            @LuFins-Dad

            People rise up when the either the price of food is so high or so scarce they can’t feed their children. So far Iranian children and their parents and grandparents, particularly in cities, have not been going hungry.

            Elbows up!

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              I just don’t think we will enter the fray. The only thing we can add is the MOPs and there’s no guarantee they can put Fordo out of business, plus it would spread radiation over the region. If that facility is to be shut down it will have to be by cutting off their power supply, destroying the tunnel access and possibly in combination with a ground assault.

              And don’t forget, every day is Taco Tuesday. If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. I don’t believe he would risk that.

              Our biggest threat here is overreach based on the Israeli successes. The mullahs have had their world rocked. At the very least their adventurism will be greatly chastened even if the regime manages to stay in power. We especially need to stay out of the regime change business. It’s what got us 45 years of Iran as we know it.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Stop selling. I’m already supportive of US involvement.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  This is in Tel Aviv today.

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                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                    Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I sincerely hope someone takes out the threat of a nuclear ballistic missile capable Iran.
                      We've already got N Korea, that's more than enough.

                      Just give Israel a few of those bunker buster bombs if you ain't going to step up.

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                        We gave them the 5,000 lb version. But that won't do the job. The MOP will, but it weighs as much as a cement mixer. Only the B2 can deliver it. Only the US operates the B2.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Israel's option would be a land-based special forces operation.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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                            So give them an old B2,
                            or a lift 😆

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                              I honestly think we should delete Fordo for them. For the whole world, really.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                It's almost worth it just to see Tulsi resign.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

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                                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                                  Last night I said If our ordinance failed it would destroy his presidency. Upon reflection I think if we were successful, the resulting radiation spewed would do that same thing. We cannot win here by getting involved. .

                                  I’m not sure that would be the case. Fordow is buried so deeply that I would think the MOP would likely result in the facility collapsing in on itself trapping the uranium, not blasting it outward.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Seems to me that the commando raid, blow it up from inside would be safer. But I really don't give a shit if Qom becomes uninhabitable for a few thousand years.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      The international outcry about that would last even longer.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

                                          When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

                                          For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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