Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 19:52 last edited by Renauda 2 May 2025, 19:53
And call for a national day of prayer.
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 19:55 last edited by
Ship them all off to Palm Beach.
The fact that Trump's solution to violence in the ME is to build a golf resort would be hysterical if I actually thought he was joking. Somebody really needs to sit him down and say "Donald, it's a fucking stupid idea". I guess he's surrounded by sycophants. Quelle Surprise, as they say in the soon-to-be American Commonwealth of Quebec.
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 20:43 last edited by
Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves? -
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 21:11 last edited by
I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 21:28 last edited by
@xenon said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I think he’s just gonna pretend he didn’t say this tomorrow.
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 21:35 last edited by
@Tom-K said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:
It would be an improvement.
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@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 21:40 last edited by Jolly 2 May 2025, 21:54@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.
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Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 21:54 last edited by@Axtremus said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?Horace said:
These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today.
That's the end result of doing nothing. I do agree that's the historical answer. I'm not entirely sure it's unworkable.
Nobody wants the Palestinians. Egypt and Jordan would love for them to just go away, for they are a huge destabilizing influence in both countries as their numbers rise. The Saudis don't want them, either. The Iranians could care less about them, they're just useful tools.
Since we can't just eradicate them, and it's no use to keep bathing them in money (since the people get very little of the money), maybe it's time to cut off most aid. Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 22:12 last edited by Renauda 23 minutes from now@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
Again, just another dumb bustard without an idea.
I don’t recall you ever having a thought, let alone an original idea, on this matter that didn’t involve explosives, pyrotechnics and body bags or, as in this case, a state policy involving the forced mass deportations of people against their will. The approach suggests a rather unpleasant Stalinist technique for problem solving and governance. Not recommended for any modern liberal democracy, especially the USA.
I would therefore question your assertions and calling others here a dumb bustard*.
- read: bastard
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 22:19 last edited by Doctor Phibes 2 May 2025, 22:20@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?
We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?
Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.
Insulting me might make you feel better, but it doesn't make Trump look any less stupid.
And I never claimed to have a solution. At least I'm honest. You think your hero really knows what he's doing?
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wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 22:23 last edited by
I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
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I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 22:37 last edited by Renauda 2 May 2025, 22:42Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.
Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.
Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.
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I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 22:42 last edited by@Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.
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Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.
Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.
Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.
wrote on 5 Feb 2025, 23:04 last edited by Mik 2 May 2025, 23:05@Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.
Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.
Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.
Always good advice. My hopes that he would be more presidential have been dashed. I just hope this works out.
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@Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 00:49 last edited by Renauda 25 minutes from now@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.
It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.
More like it that Trump was envious that since the ICC had arrest warrants out for deeds his friends Putin and Netanyahu accomplished, Trump too wanted to do something that would qualify him for the same high profile attention. Mass deportations and forced resettlement of whole ethnic populations seemed like a no brainier. After all, it worked for Milosevic.
He’s also really big on ensuring his own personal inclusion in competitions receiving international recognition. There’s always the off chance he might just win the attention he believes himself to be duly entitled.
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Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.
Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.
Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 01:50 last edited by@Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.
Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.
Yup.
Saudi Arabia reacted swiftly and sternly to US President Donald Trump’s pledge to “take over” the Gaza Strip, reiterating no normalisation deal with Israel will occur until Palestinians receive their own independent state.
“The establishment of the Palestinian state is a firm, unwavering position,” the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a lengthy statement on X on Wednesday.
“His Highness [Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed bin Salman] has affirmed this position in a clear and explicit manner that does not allow for any interpretation under any circumstances.
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The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time. I'm mostly concerned with the retribution and disloyal retaliation game, uncleared resources accessing clearance-required systems, teenagers modifying source code at the US Department of Treasury, installing servers in OPM, violating the records retention act, among other comments (DEI caused the DC plane crash, and the USA is going to bulldoze Gaza to build a beautiful city), and actions being made during this opening "executive blitzkrieg" we are watching. At least there will be plenty of historical content to be written about for years, it's quite a time. You know secretly the news media loves it, and secretly the silicon valley folks are cringing, except maybe Elon.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 01:53 last edited by@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 01:57 last edited by
It’s about time they did their job.
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@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 01:57 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.
wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 02:05 last edited by@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
@89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:
The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.
Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".
Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.
LOL. True.
Somebody made a comment that the reason president Trump did the announcement about tariffs with Mexico and Canada and then took it back was because people who knew ahead of time bet on the stock market to drop, so bet on that to make money.
