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  • X xenon

    I think he’s just gonna pretend he didn’t say this tomorrow.

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    @xenon said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

    I think he’s just gonna pretend he didn’t say this tomorrow.

    Right on cue:
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/05/world/israel-gaza-netanyahu-trump?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250205&instance_id=146749&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=89229062&segment_id=190231&user_id=07ae106f897c7aaf0dfd7067da1ba613

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    • Tom-KT Tom-K

      I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:

      image.png

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      @Tom-K said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

      I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:

      image.png

      It would be an improvement.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

        Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

        We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

        @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

        Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

        We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

        Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Have we tried "no nothing"?
          Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?

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          @Axtremus said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

          Have we tried "no nothing"?
          Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?

          Horace said:

          These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today.

          That's the end result of doing nothing. I do agree that's the historical answer. I'm not entirely sure it's unworkable.

          Nobody wants the Palestinians. Egypt and Jordan would love for them to just go away, for they are a huge destabilizing influence in both countries as their numbers rise. The Saudis don't want them, either. The Iranians could care less about them, they're just useful tools.

          Since we can't just eradicate them, and it's no use to keep bathing them in money (since the people get very little of the money), maybe it's time to cut off most aid. Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

            @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

            Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

            We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

            Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

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            Renauda
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            #44

            @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

            @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

            Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

            We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

            Again, just another dumb bustard without an idea.

            I don’t recall you ever having a thought, let alone an original idea, on this matter that didn’t involve explosives, pyrotechnics and body bags or, as in this case, a state policy involving the forced mass deportations of people against their will. The approach suggests a rather unpleasant Stalinist technique for problem solving and governance. Not recommended for any modern liberal democracy, especially the USA.

            I would therefore question your assertions and calling others here a dumb bustard*.

            • read: bastard

            Elbows up!

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

              @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

              Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

              We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

              Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #45

              @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

              @Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

              Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

              We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

              Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

              Insulting me might make you feel better, but it doesn't make Trump look any less stupid.

              And I never claimed to have a solution. At least I'm honest. You think your hero really knows what he's doing?

              I was only joking

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              • MikM Away
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                I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

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                  @Mik

                  Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

                  Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

                  Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

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                    @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                    I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

                    It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.

                    I was only joking

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Mik

                      Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

                      Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

                      Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

                      MikM Away
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #49

                      @Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                      @Mik

                      Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

                      Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

                      Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

                      Always good advice. My hopes that he would be more presidential have been dashed. I just hope this works out.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                        I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

                        It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.

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                        Renauda
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                        @Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                        I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

                        It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.

                        More like it that Trump was envious that since the ICC had arrest warrants out for deeds his friends Putin and Netanyahu accomplished, Trump too wanted to do something that would qualify him for the same high profile attention. Mass deportations and forced resettlement of whole ethnic populations seemed like a no brainier. After all, it worked for Milosevic.

                        He’s also really big on ensuring his own personal inclusion in competitions receiving international recognition. There’s always the off chance he might just win the attention he believes himself to be duly entitled.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @Mik

                          Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

                          Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

                          Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

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                          @Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                          Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

                          Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

                          Yup.

                          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/non-negotiable-saudi-arabia-flatly-rejects-trumps-gaza-takeover-plan

                          Saudi Arabia reacted swiftly and sternly to US President Donald Trump’s pledge to “take over” the Gaza Strip, reiterating no normalisation deal with Israel will occur until Palestinians receive their own independent state.

                          “The establishment of the Palestinian state is a firm, unwavering position,” the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a lengthy statement on X on Wednesday.

                          “His Highness [Crown Prince and Prime Minister Mohammed bin Salman] has affirmed this position in a clear and explicit manner that does not allow for any interpretation under any circumstances.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time. I'm mostly concerned with the retribution and disloyal retaliation game, uncleared resources accessing clearance-required systems, teenagers modifying source code at the US Department of Treasury, installing servers in OPM, violating the records retention act, among other comments (DEI caused the DC plane crash, and the USA is going to bulldoze Gaza to build a beautiful city), and actions being made during this opening "executive blitzkrieg" we are watching. At least there will be plenty of historical content to be written about for years, it's quite a time. You know secretly the news media loves it, and secretly the silicon valley folks are cringing, except maybe Elon.

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                            @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                            The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                            Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
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                              It’s about time they did their job.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

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                                @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.

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                                • kluursK kluurs

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                  @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                  The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                  Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                  Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.

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                                  @kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                  @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                  The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                  Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                  Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.

                                  LOL. True.

                                  Somebody made a comment that the reason president Trump did the announcement about tariffs with Mexico and Canada and then took it back was because people who knew ahead of time bet on the stock market to drop, so bet on that to make money.

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                                  • kluursK kluurs

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                    Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                    Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.

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                                    @kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                    The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                    Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                    Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors.

                                    There’s actually an historical precedent for such a governing body.

                                    It was called the Politburo - an innovation of Lenin and perfected by Stalin. Later adopted by Mao.

                                    Not by any stretch of the imagination an institution characteristic of any functioning liberal democracy ever on the planet.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • kluursK kluurs

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      @89th said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      The equality of the 3 branches of government is certainly undergoing a stress test it hasn't seen in a very long time.

                                      Agree. I think that the legislature branch has to become less of a "yes man".

                                      Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors. Of course, that would ruin their stock portfolios.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

                                      Musk might argue with some evidence that the expense of the Senate and House is hard to justify. Might do better to have a 8-12 person board of directors.

                                      Why stop there? Just one bloke would be much more cost-effective. Musk could then change his job title to Grand Vizier, grow an interesting moustache and start wearing those satin shoes that curl up at the end.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Hats off to Horace for at least some thought.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          And therein lies the Truth: https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-840776?dicbo=v2-uytKEQQ

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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