Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza

[kluurs]

Move the folks from Gaza to our new state of Greenland.

[Horace]

In a world without backlash from those with luxury beliefs, I.e. the world as it always was before the modern west and its diseased cultures became prevalent, Trump's idea is fine. But it's unworkable today, and the terrorism would render a vacation resort completely unworkable. (Not to mention the process by which a vacation resort could ever be built. Over the dead bodies of the current inhabitants?) Or that's what I think.

[Jolly]

@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Move the folks from Gaza to our new state of Greenland.

No solution, eh?

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Move the folks from Gaza to our new state of Greenland.

No solution, eh?

These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today. So, no solution. Just permanent conflict, unless the Palestinian culture evolves.

[Renauda]

@kluurs said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Move the folks from Gaza to our new state of Greenland.

Too much fuss and diplomacy. Nightmarish legal obstacles as well.

Instead, build some exclusive gated housing developments on a couple of those uninhabited island paradises in the Aleutian chain. Guarantee security with 24/7 Coast Guard patrols.

No fuss, no muss.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

[Renauda]

And call for a national day of prayer.

[Doctor Phibes]

Ship them all off to Palm Beach.

The fact that Trump's solution to violence in the ME is to build a golf resort would be hysterical if I actually thought he was joking. Somebody really needs to sit him down and say "Donald, it's a fucking stupid idea". I guess he's surrounded by sycophants. Quelle Surprise, as they say in the soon-to-be American Commonwealth of Quebec.

[Axtremus]

Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?

[Tom-K]

I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:

[xenon]

@xenon said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

I think he’s just gonna pretend he didn’t say this tomorrow.

Right on cue:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/05/world/israel-gaza-netanyahu-trump?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250205&instance_id=146749&nl=from-the-times&regi_id=89229062&segment_id=190231&user_id=07ae106f897c7aaf0dfd7067da1ba613

[Mik]

@Tom-K said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

I bllieve the plans are to make Gaza look something like this:

It would be an improvement.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Have we tried "no nothing"?
Like, stop meddling, stop "helping" one side or the other; just leave them be and let them hash it out themselves?

Horace said:

These things were always solved with some combination of extermination and assimilation, neither of which is workable today.

That's the end result of doing nothing. I do agree that's the historical answer. I'm not entirely sure it's unworkable.

Nobody wants the Palestinians. Egypt and Jordan would love for them to just go away, for they are a huge destabilizing influence in both countries as their numbers rise. The Saudis don't want them, either. The Iranians could care less about them, they're just useful tools.

Since we can't just eradicate them, and it's no use to keep bathing them in money (since the people get very little of the money), maybe it's time to cut off most aid. Maybe we do give them the tools to develop real estate or to create jobs, but essentially tell them this is all they're getting and they better make it work.

[Renauda]

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

Again, just another dumb bustard without an idea.

I don’t recall you ever having a thought, let alone an original idea, on this matter that didn’t involve explosives, pyrotechnics and body bags or, as in this case, a state policy involving the forced mass deportations of people against their will. The approach suggests a rather unpleasant Stalinist technique for problem solving and governance. Not recommended for any modern liberal democracy, especially the USA.

I would therefore question your assertions and calling others here a dumb bustard*.

• read: bastard

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Jolly said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

Would somebody lay out a solution to the problem?

We all close our eyes and say "I DO believe in Donald!"?

Again, just another dumb bastard without an idea.

Insulting me might make you feel better, but it doesn't make Trump look any less stupid.

And I never claimed to have a solution. At least I'm honest. You think your hero really knows what he's doing?

[Mik]

I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

[Renauda]

@Mik

Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

I have no idea how all this will play out, but it's generally true that if you do what you've always done you'll get what you always got. I don't think I would have said what he did, but Jolly is right that it will get people thinking differently. For a while.

It's odd that he didn't bring any of this up before the election. I suppose it's possible he was worried other people would steal his brilliant ideas.

[Mik]

@Renauda said in Trump says the USA will takeover Gaza:

@Mik

Sure, it’s getting every Arab nation that is a signatory to the Abraham Accord - Trump’s single noteworthy foreign policy initiative during his first term - to rethink as to why they should remain a part of the Accord. It also gives Arab states currently thinking to sign on an opportunity to reconsider and decline.

Trump is effectively blowing up his own ME foreign policy success story.

Perhaps Trump should for once in his life do more listen then think and confine his talk to asking questions and trying to learn.

Always good advice. My hopes that he would be more presidential have been dashed. I just hope this works out.