Mr. Clemency
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We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
Biden had been a typical Washington pol up to a point, using his influence and knowledge to make money, but I'm not sure he was super corrupt. Then, somewhere around 2014, the Biden Crime Family went into the " make it rain" mode and threw a lot of caution to the winds.
Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
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We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
Exactly. "Your criminals are worse than my criminals."
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I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.
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I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.
@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.
Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.
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What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.
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@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.
What about the other 20%?
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@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
@Mik said in Mr. Clemency:
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.
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I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
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Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.
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I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
@AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.
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I was only joking
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?
He's doing the Nazi salute wrong.
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@Horace said in Mr. Clemency:
Was he just released?
I think he served his sentence and was out already.
Federal prosecutors initially asked for a 90-day sentence.[1][15] On November 22, 2021, Johnson reached a plea agreement and pleaded guilty in federal court to entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, and prosecutors dismissed his charges of theft of government property and of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.[9] The plea deal also included an agreement on a potential book or "something of that nature" that would be published by Johnson, which gave the government rights to any profit that Johnson acquired as a result of that product for five years.[9] During his trial, judge Reggie Walton recommended he read the books How Civil Wars Start and The Next Civil War.[4] On February 25, 2022, Johnson was sentenced to 75 days in prison with a year of supervised release and 200 hours of community service, and he was ordered to pay a $5,525 fine.
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