Mr. Clemency
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We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
Biden had been a typical Washington pol up to a point, using his influence and knowledge to make money, but I'm not sure he was super corrupt. Then, somewhere around 2014, the Biden Crime Family went into the " make it rain" mode and threw a lot of caution to the winds.
Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
Exactly. "Your criminals are worse than my criminals."
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I don't care for the Biden blanket pardons. Pardons are usually issued for individual (and usually adjudicated) acts.
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@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.
Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.
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What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.
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@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.
What about the other 20%?
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@Mik said in Mr. Clemency:
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.
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I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
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Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.
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@AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.
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@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?
He's doing the Nazi salute wrong.