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  • H Horace
    12 Sept 2024, 19:24

    It's an unestablished precedent, whether a president can pardon himself. I believe Roberts mentioned that the court has "luckily" never faced a need to make that decision.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 19:29 last edited by
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    @Horace said in It’s starting:

    It's an unestablished precedent, whether a president can pardon himself. I believe Roberts mentioned that the court has "luckily" never faced a need to make that decision.

    Moot question in this particular case - this is a state charge.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 19:30 last edited by
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      I can’t imagine his sentence would ever include jail time.

      But maybe the judge could craft a suicide order under the guise of community service?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        12 Sept 2024, 19:30

        I can’t imagine his sentence would ever include jail time.

        But maybe the judge could craft a suicide order under the guise of community service?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 21:04 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

        I can’t imagine his sentence would ever include jail time.

        But maybe the judge could craft a suicide order under the guise of community service?

        I can.

        TDS is a strong emotion.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          12 Sept 2024, 21:04

          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

          I can’t imagine his sentence would ever include jail time.

          But maybe the judge could craft a suicide order under the guise of community service?

          I can.

          TDS is a strong emotion.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 12 Sept 2024, 21:25 last edited by
          #72

          @Jolly said in It’s starting:

          TDS is a strong emotion.

          And a useful diversionary tool.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 16:05 last edited by
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            Just imagine how bad it would have been if Donald had performed well in the debate…

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            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:08 last edited by
              #74

              Where’s that from? Nate has Harris ahead in PA, WI, MI, and NV.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • L LuFins Dad
                17 Sept 2024, 16:05

                Just imagine how bad it would have been if Donald had performed well in the debate…

                alt text

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:19 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                Just imagine how bad it would have been if Donald had performed well in the debate…

                alt text

                With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J jon-nyc
                  17 Sept 2024, 18:08

                  Where’s that from? Nate has Harris ahead in PA, WI, MI, and NV.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:27 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                  Where’s that from? Nate has Harris ahead in PA, WI, MI, and NV.

                  Yeah, he updated the models 15 minutes after I posted. I think it’s Kamala 50, Trump 47, and a 3% chance of a split?

                  The Brad

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:33 last edited by
                    #77

                    That would put the electoral count in the blue.

                    Though I think his model assumes some latent level of redward shift over time so maybe not. When he first started posting projections favoring Trump he hinted that if the polls stay the same the model becomes more blue friendly.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      17 Sept 2024, 18:33

                      That would put the electoral count in the blue.

                      Though I think his model assumes some latent level of redward shift over time so maybe not. When he first started posting projections favoring Trump he hinted that if the polls stay the same the model becomes more blue friendly.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:45 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                      That would put the electoral count in the blue.

                      Though I think his model assumes some latent level of redward shift over time so maybe not. When he first started posting projections favoring Trump he hinted that if the polls stay the same the model becomes more blue friendly.

                      PA is basically a coin toss according to the polls, and all the battlegrounds are within the
                      margin of error. Trump beat the margin of error two elections in a row.

                      The Brad

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 18:47 last edited by
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                        That checks out. Trump is marginal, and also an error.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 19:07 last edited by
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                          I went ahead and subscribed for two months.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • J Jolly
                            17 Sept 2024, 18:19

                            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                            Just imagine how bad it would have been if Donald had performed well in the debate…

                            alt text

                            With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 19:09 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                            With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                            There's a lot of coast in Illinois, just no elites.

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              17 Sept 2024, 19:09

                              @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                              With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                              There's a lot of coast in Illinois, just no elites.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 19:09 last edited by
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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                17 Sept 2024, 19:09

                                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                                There's a lot of coast in Illinois, just no elites.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 19:13 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

                                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                                There's a lot of coast in Illinois, just no elites.

                                You should see Michigan.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  17 Sept 2024, 19:13

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

                                  @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                  With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                                  There's a lot of coast in Illinois, just no elites.

                                  You should see Michigan.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 20:20 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in It’s starting:

                                  You should see Michigan.

                                  The comparison between Michigan and its neighbour Ontario makes me question whether 'An armed society is a polite society' isn't over-stating things a little.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    17 Sept 2024, 19:07

                                    I went ahead and subscribed for two months.

                                    IMG_0187.jpeg

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 17 Sept 2024, 21:57 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                    I went ahead and subscribed for two months.

                                    Nate wins!

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      17 Sept 2024, 18:19

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                      Just imagine how bad it would have been if Donald had performed well in the debate…

                                      alt text

                                      With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 01:50 last edited by
                                      #86

                                      @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                      With the exception of four states, the very definition of "coastal elites".

                                      Have you ever visited Rhode Island? 😀

                                      Refusing to sleep with blood relatives when there's an R in the month doesn't make one an elite.

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        17 Sept 2024, 18:45

                                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                        That would put the electoral count in the blue.

                                        Though I think his model assumes some latent level of redward shift over time so maybe not. When he first started posting projections favoring Trump he hinted that if the polls stay the same the model becomes more blue friendly.

                                        PA is basically a coin toss according to the polls, and all the battlegrounds are within the
                                        margin of error. Trump beat the margin of error two elections in a row.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 12:51 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                        Trump beat the margin of error two elections in a row.

                                        That's important to remember. Anytime I see headlines about models showing Kamala winning, I get flashbacks of the other cackling gal in 2016...

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 18 Sept 2024, 12:59 last edited by
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                                          And Joe was between 4-7 points ahead before 2020.

                                          The Brad

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