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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #207

    Tell me it was a political trial without telling me it was a political trial.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #208

      Someone refer this woman to a urogynecologist, please.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #209

        It seems nothing is beyond disclosing publicly anymore.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          It seems nothing is beyond disclosing publicly anymore.

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
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          #210

          @Mik said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

          It seems nothing is beyond disclosing publicly anymore.

          As an aside.
          (that is why I have trouble believing any conspiracy theories. In a world where almost EVERYONE is willing to share ANYTHING, to have a conspiracy that would require hundreds/thousands of people to be involved yet nobody says a word is hard to believe.)

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #211

            Trump's lawyers speak:

            “I think that the jury instructions had a very key flaw here, which is the falsification of business records had to be in furtherance of some other crime and there wasn’t really great instructions on what that other crime was,” Parlatore said in response to a question about whether the jury instructions might lead to an appeals court overturning the verdict.

            “Under New York state law, they’re not required to say which it is. But when they do, the judge has to instruct them on that specific crime. And the problem here is they don’t have to prove that they actually committed that other crime. They don’t have to prove that they actually had [Federal Election Commission] violations, but they have to show that what they intended to do was in fact a crime. And that I think is really the shortfall in the jury instructions is the lack of an explanation to this jury as to the federal election law.”

            CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig and criminal defense attorney Michael O’Mara on Friday said Trump’s appeal will plausibly be based on the case’s unprecedented nature and Merchan not sequestering the jury.

            “I think there’s a great likelihood, and the reason why is there are a number of issues,” O’Mara said in response to a question about the likelihood of the appeal succeeding. “I have always complained about the way this jury was or was not handled during the trial. I think with the massive focus on this case that they should have been sequestered. They certainly should have been sequestered during the deliberations. I think they should have been sequestered for the week before.

            My non-legal opinion is that another cause for appeal was in pre-trial motions denying the defense's request to call some witnesses.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #212

              Saw an interview with Dersh about Trump's lawyers. He said that some were quite good, while a few were lacking. It was his opinion that Trump would benefit from bringing in a couple of attorneys familiar with the New York appeal process.

              That's all well and fine, but this is New York and any New York lawyer who represents Trump will be hounded.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #213

                By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #214

                  @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                  By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

                  Of course.

                  Now, mull about the proximity of the sentencing date to the GOP convention.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #215

                    @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                    By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

                    The case is done. Trump is convicted. How is it that Trump can't address the case, or its witnesses?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #216

                      Dersh made some interesting comments - specifically that Trump's lawyers were sloppy in not preserving the record for appeal.

                      IOW, if it's not in the record, it didn't happen. Usually appellate courts review transcripts.

                      The issue of the witness being denied is, apparently, not in the record.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #217

                        And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

                        "Reluctant?"

                        This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

                        Screenshot 2024-06-01 at 11.29.34 AM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

                          "Reluctant?"

                          This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

                          Screenshot 2024-06-01 at 11.29.34 AM.png

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #218

                          @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                          And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

                          "Reluctant?"

                          This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

                          Screenshot 2024-06-01 at 11.29.34 AM.png

                          See the guy directly to the right of Bragg? I think that’s the guy who gave up being the #3 Guy at DoJ, to become an Assistant Prosecutor… Hmmmm…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                            And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

                            "Reluctant?"

                            This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

                            Screenshot 2024-06-01 at 11.29.34 AM.png

                            See the guy directly to the right of Bragg? I think that’s the guy who gave up being the #3 Guy at DoJ, to become an Assistant Prosecutor… Hmmmm…

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #219

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                            I think that’s the guy who gave up being the #3 Guy at DoJ

                            Yup that's him.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #220

                              Yeah, it would be like you deciding to quit your practice and taking a position as a PA at a smaller office.

                              The Brad

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                              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
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                                #221

                                If elected president again, Trump would need special permission to enter several key countries for maintaining foreign relations

                                Thirty-eight nations, counting the United States, bar felons from entry, according to World Population Review. Those bans stand regardless of whether someone is allowed to retain their passport after conviction.

                                Countries That Deny Entry to Felons

                                Argentina
                                Australia
                                Brazil
                                Cambodia
                                Canada
                                Chile
                                China
                                Cuba
                                Dominican Republic
                                Egypt
                                Ethiopia
                                Hong Kong
                                India
                                Indonesia
                                Iran
                                Ireland
                                Israel
                                Japan
                                Kenya
                                Macau
                                Malaysia
                                Mexico
                                Morocco
                                Nepal
                                New Zealand
                                Peru
                                Philippines
                                Singapore
                                South Africa
                                South Korea
                                Taiwan
                                Tanzania
                                Tunisia
                                Turkey
                                Ukraine
                                United Arab Emirates
                                United Kingdom
                                United States
                                
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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #222

                                  Keep dreaming...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #223

                                    Well, if Eric is telling the truth, $200M.

                                    Since Thursday.

                                    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13486189/donald-trump-2024-campaign-raised-millions-guilty-verdict-trial.html?ico=related-replace

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Keep dreaming...

                                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                      taiwan_girl
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                                      #224

                                      @Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                                      Keep dreaming...

                                      I am not dreaming. It was interesting buy obvious he would get special permission from any country. No doubt.

                                      The article mentions that 2nd President Bush needed special permission to go to the UK because of a drunk drive incident years ago.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #225

                                        Interesting. I went there all the time and even got a work permit despite a DUI on my record.

                                        In fact I got the work permit within months of getting my DUI.

                                        You were warned.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Interesting. I went there all the time and even got a work permit despite a DUI on my record.

                                          In fact I got the work permit within months of getting my DUI.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          @jon-nyc PResident Trump may be contacting you if he wins in Nov.on tips and assistance when he has to travel.

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