The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

It seems nothing is beyond disclosing publicly anymore.

As an aside.
(that is why I have trouble believing any conspiracy theories. In a world where almost EVERYONE is willing to share ANYTHING, to have a conspiracy that would require hundreds/thousands of people to be involved yet nobody says a word is hard to believe.)

[George K]

Trump's lawyers speak:

“I think that the jury instructions had a very key flaw here, which is the falsification of business records had to be in furtherance of some other crime and there wasn’t really great instructions on what that other crime was,” Parlatore said in response to a question about whether the jury instructions might lead to an appeals court overturning the verdict.

“Under New York state law, they’re not required to say which it is. But when they do, the judge has to instruct them on that specific crime. And the problem here is they don’t have to prove that they actually committed that other crime. They don’t have to prove that they actually had [Federal Election Commission] violations, but they have to show that what they intended to do was in fact a crime. And that I think is really the shortfall in the jury instructions is the lack of an explanation to this jury as to the federal election law.”

CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig and criminal defense attorney Michael O’Mara on Friday said Trump’s appeal will plausibly be based on the case’s unprecedented nature and Merchan not sequestering the jury.

“I think there’s a great likelihood, and the reason why is there are a number of issues,” O’Mara said in response to a question about the likelihood of the appeal succeeding. “I have always complained about the way this jury was or was not handled during the trial. I think with the massive focus on this case that they should have been sequestered. They certainly should have been sequestered during the deliberations. I think they should have been sequestered for the week before.

My non-legal opinion is that another cause for appeal was in pre-trial motions denying the defense's request to call some witnesses.

[Jolly]

Saw an interview with Dersh about Trump's lawyers. He said that some were quite good, while a few were lacking. It was his opinion that Trump would benefit from bringing in a couple of attorneys familiar with the New York appeal process.

That's all well and fine, but this is New York and any New York lawyer who represents Trump will be hounded.

[George K]

By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

Of course.

Now, mull about the proximity of the sentencing date to the GOP convention.

[George K]

@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

By the way, even though the case has been adjudicated, the gag order is still in effect.

The case is done. Trump is convicted. How is it that Trump can't address the case, or its witnesses?

[George K]

Dersh made some interesting comments - specifically that Trump's lawyers were sloppy in not preserving the record for appeal.

IOW, if it's not in the record, it didn't happen. Usually appellate courts review transcripts.

The issue of the witness being denied is, apparently, not in the record.

[George K]

And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

"Reluctant?"

This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

And just when you thought you couldn't hate the media enough.

"Reluctant?"

This guy RAN FOR OFFICE with the goal of convicting Trump.

See the guy directly to the right of Bragg? I think that’s the guy who gave up being the #3 Guy at DoJ, to become an Assistant Prosecutor… Hmmmm…

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

I think that’s the guy who gave up being the #3 Guy at DoJ

Yup that's him.

[LuFins Dad]

Yeah, it would be like you deciding to quit your practice and taking a position as a PA at a smaller office.

[taiwan_girl]

If elected president again, Trump would need special permission to enter several key countries for maintaining foreign relations

Thirty-eight nations, counting the United States, bar felons from entry, according to World Population Review. Those bans stand regardless of whether someone is allowed to retain their passport after conviction.

Countries That Deny Entry to Felons

Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Cambodia
Canada
Chile
China
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Egypt
Ethiopia
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Iran
Ireland
Israel
Japan
Kenya
Macau
Malaysia
Mexico
Morocco
Nepal
New Zealand
Peru
Philippines
Singapore
South Africa
South Korea
Taiwan
Tanzania
Tunisia
Turkey
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United States

[Jolly]

Keep dreaming...

[Jolly]

Well, if Eric is telling the truth, $200M.

Since Thursday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13486189/donald-trump-2024-campaign-raised-millions-guilty-verdict-trial.html?ico=related-replace

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

Keep dreaming...

I am not dreaming. It was interesting buy obvious he would get special permission from any country. No doubt.

The article mentions that 2nd President Bush needed special permission to go to the UK because of a drunk drive incident years ago.

[jon-nyc]

Interesting. I went there all the time and even got a work permit despite a DUI on my record.

In fact I got the work permit within months of getting my DUI.

[taiwan_girl]

@jon-nyc PResident Trump may be contacting you if he wins in Nov.on tips and assistance when he has to travel.

[LuFins Dad]

Hey, did Trump ever get the money from the NDA back?

[Jolly]

I don't think so...

[George K]

He should sue.