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    89th
    wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:51 last edited by
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    Fun exercise @taiwan_girl ! Yes I’d put myself in CR for sure.

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    • J jon-nyc
      6 Aug 2020, 18:32

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

      Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

      But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

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      Horace
      wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 18:52 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

      Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

      But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

      Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • J jon-nyc
        6 Aug 2020, 18:32

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

        Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

        But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

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        Mik
        wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 19:38 last edited by Mik 8 Jun 2020, 19:38
        #30

        @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

        Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

        But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

        No, anyone can be Objective. You have the market cornered on Objectionable. 😆

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • H Horace
          6 Aug 2020, 18:52

          @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

          Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

          But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

          Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

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          Mik
          wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 19:38 last edited by
          #31

          @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

          Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

          But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

          Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

          Anointed. In this case it means "I didn't have a tissue handy".

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • T taiwan_girl
            6 Aug 2020, 16:26

            For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

            Right
            Center Right
            Center Left
            Left

            The percents were
            R = 14
            CR = 43
            CL = 34
            L = 9

            Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

            89th CR
            Aqua L CL
            Copper R
            Axtremus L
            Bachophile CL
            Brenda CR
            CatsEye CL
            Dr. Phibes CL
            Friday CL
            George CR
            Horace R
            ILM CR
            Improviso R
            IvoryThumper CR
            Jeffery CR
            Jolly R
            Jon CL
            Kincaid CR
            Klaus CL
            Kluurs CR
            Larry R
            Loki CR
            LuFIns Dad CR
            MarinerMike CR
            Mark CR
            Mik CR
            Nobodys Sock L
            Optimistic CL
            Quantum CR
            Rainman CR
            Renauda CL
            Rich CL
            Taiwan Girl CL
            WTG L
            Xenon CL

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            Klaus
            wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 20:22 last edited by
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            @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            Klaus CL

            In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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              Rainman
              wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 21:53 last edited by
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              I count only three "L" in the list, but typical for the far left, the number is listed as 9. I almost rest my case.

              Ax, Left? No way. He's right down the middle, sensible. Is there an "S" category? There should be. Me and Ax. Both "S's" and appropriately look down on everyone else.

              You should all just be grateful that Me and Ax even talk to anyone else in the world, let alone any comrades here.

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              • H Horace
                6 Aug 2020, 17:42

                The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

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                Copper
                wrote on 6 Aug 2020, 22:01 last edited by
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                @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

                It is shameful.

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                • K Klaus
                  6 Aug 2020, 20:22

                  @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  Klaus CL

                  In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 00:01 last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  Klaus CL

                  In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                  Acfually, I'd say Larry and I both would be classified as positively revolutionists...In 1776.

                  But yes, I would peg you as classical liberal...Which is pretty conservative in America...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • T taiwan_girl
                    6 Aug 2020, 16:26

                    For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

                    Right
                    Center Right
                    Center Left
                    Left

                    The percents were
                    R = 14
                    CR = 43
                    CL = 34
                    L = 9

                    Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

                    89th CR
                    Aqua L CL
                    Copper R
                    Axtremus L
                    Bachophile CL
                    Brenda CR
                    CatsEye CL
                    Dr. Phibes CL
                    Friday CL
                    George CR
                    Horace R
                    ILM CR
                    Improviso R
                    IvoryThumper CR
                    Jeffery CR
                    Jolly R
                    Jon CL
                    Kincaid CR
                    Klaus CL
                    Kluurs CR
                    Larry R
                    Loki CR
                    LuFIns Dad CR
                    MarinerMike CR
                    Mark CR
                    Mik CR
                    Nobodys Sock L
                    Optimistic CL
                    Quantum CR
                    Rainman CR
                    Renauda CL
                    Rich CL
                    Taiwan Girl CL
                    WTG L
                    Xenon CL

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                    Kincaid
                    wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 00:21 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl

                    I would put myself at CR as well, mostly because of a few libertarian positions and because I support single payer Health Care. Almost everything else I am down right Republican.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 01:16 last edited by
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                      Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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                      • K Klaus
                        6 Aug 2020, 20:22

                        @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                        Klaus CL

                        In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 01:18 last edited by
                        #38

                        @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                        Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                        AFD is far right. Not you.

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                        • L Loki
                          7 Aug 2020, 01:16

                          Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                          @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                          Yeah, great call.

                          TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            7 Aug 2020, 01:48

                            @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                            Yeah, great call.

                            TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 01:59 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer
                            Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                            Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                            BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                            Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                            Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                            • R Rainman
                              7 Aug 2020, 01:59

                              @Aqua-Letifer
                              Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                              Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                              BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                              Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                              Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:16 last edited by Aqua Letifer 8 Jul 2020, 02:20
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                              @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                              Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                              Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                              And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                              Please love yourself.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:22 last edited by
                                #42

                                All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                                Some notes:

                                • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                                • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                                • What do you guys think?

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                                Larry R 1
                                Improviso R 2
                                Copper R 3
                                Jolly R 4
                                Horace R 5
                                IvoryThumper CR 6
                                Brenda CR 7
                                George CR 8
                                Rainman CR 9
                                LuFIns Dad CR 10
                                Kincaid CR 11
                                Loki CR 12
                                89th CR 13
                                Mik CR 14
                                Mark CR 15
                                MarinerMike CR 16
                                Kluurs CR 17
                                Jeffery CR 18
                                ILM CR 19
                                Quantum CR 20
                                Renauda CL 21
                                Klaus CL 22
                                Aqua L CL 23
                                Jon CL 24
                                Xenon CL 25
                                Taiwan Girl CL 26
                                Bachophile CL 27
                                Rich CL 28
                                Dr. Phibes CL 29
                                CatsEye CL 30
                                Friday CL 31
                                Optimistic CL 32
                                Axtremus L 33
                                WTG L 34
                                Nobodys Sock L 35

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:24 last edited by
                                  #43

                                  Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right eh jon? EH???

                                  I once met up with the next most liberal person relative to me and the next most conservative. True story. We had beers.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    7 Aug 2020, 02:16

                                    @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                    Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                                    Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                                    And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:24 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                    @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                    Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                                    Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                                    And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                                    Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                                    I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                                    Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                                    Epanalepsis. . .

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                                    • R Rainman
                                      7 Aug 2020, 02:24

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                      @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                      Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                                      Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                                      And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                                      Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                                      I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                                      Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                                      Epanalepsis. . .

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:26 last edited by
                                      #45

                                      @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                      Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.
                                      I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                                      Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                                      Epanalepsis. . .

                                      😄 If you wanna take the full plunge, get a copy of the Handlist of Rhetorical Terms. You'll be all set.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:35 last edited by
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                                        Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                        Markj more to the left

                                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          7 Aug 2020, 02:35

                                          Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                          Markj more to the left

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 7 Aug 2020, 02:38 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                          Markj more to the left

                                          Good points. Just dont know Quantum enough (or have a good feel of him) to know. He is in my 16-20 group. LOL

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