Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023)

[89th]

Yes, most of the time government employees are paid for their time off. And most of the time contractors are not paid unless their work is deemed mission critical or essential. I believe the are about 3 or 4 million federal contractors.

[taiwan_girl]

How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

Works for me...

Good luck getting that passed through <checks notes> Congress.

[Axtremus]

There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

The 27th Amendment:

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

[taiwan_girl]

@Axtremus Of course! 555

[Axtremus]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/shutdown-latest-government-funding/index.html

Congress on track for shutdown as GOP divisions on full display after late night votes

[taiwan_girl]

For the 5 or so representatives, this is their peak I think. While possible, it is doubtful that the next election will result in the same Reb vs. Dem breakdown. If the Reb have a higher majority, it is possible that 6 votes will not be needed. If the Dem have the majority, then obviously, they will not be needed.

And I think that the Reb leadership has a long memory.

[Axtremus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hardline-republican-holdouts-push-us-government-closer-shutdown-2023-09-29/

Just for good measure, House Republicans reject their own funding bill one more time just before government shutdown.

[jon-nyc]

McCarthy is trying to run the circus from the monkey cages.

[George K]

This true?

[Axtremus]

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/09/30/congress/stopgap-passes-00119280

the House on Saturday took an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote to avert a shutdown at midnight on Sunday — with the majority of Democrats bailing out the GOP.
…
McCarthy shocked his party — and most on the Hill — by deciding to put a "clean" bill on the floor that could be enough to doom his speakership. The short-term funding patch that passed includes none of the GOP’s spending cuts or border policies. The only addition: $16 billion for [flood] disaster aid sought by the White House.

[jon-nyc]

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

This true?

I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

This true?

I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

rowel

Now there's a word I haven't heard in about 15 years.

[Axtremus]

The vote count:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-tees-up-votes-last-minute-scramble-avert-shutdown-2023-09-30/

Overall: 391 for, 91 against
Among those voted to pass the 45-day funding bill, 209 are Democrats, 126 are Republicans.

[Axtremus]

The Senate passed the bill, and Biden signed it:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/30/politics/us-government-shutdown-latest/index.html

Looks like there will be no government shutdown.

Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?

[Jolly]

Now, you can sleep peacefully, knowing once again the Republic is safe.

[Axtremus]

The Republic is indeed safer with an operating federal government than without. Let's see how Congress do with a separate Ukraine funding bill that's supposed to make up for its omission from the Sep.30 government funding bill. If that goes well and quickly, I will sleep even better knowing that the world is safer too.

[Axtremus]

@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?

Looks like the House GOP will indeed file a motion to vacate McCarthy:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/oct/1/matt-gaetz-says-he-will-seek-to-oust-kevin-mccarth/