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  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #98

    Delayed rate cut? We might see another hike!

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Delayed rate cut? We might see another hike!

      JollyJ Offline
      JollyJ Offline
      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #99

      @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

      Delayed rate cut? We might see another hike!

      Not until end of the year, after the election.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • AxtremusA Away
        AxtremusA Away
        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
        #100

        https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/05/business/retailers-cutting-prices/index.html

        CNN reports that consumers, even the high-income ones, are becoming more budget conscious. Retailers are marking down prices for items deemed "discretionary spending."

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        • AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #101

          https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

          The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

            The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

            George KG Offline
            George KG Offline
            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #102

            @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

            https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

            The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

            Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

            Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #103

              Congressional Budget Office's new report:

              https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60166?mod=ANLink

              https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-more-good-news-on-inflation-americans-may-have-a-hard-time-believing-it-bea469da

              A new report from the Congressional Budget Office released this week shows that inflation may have had less of an impact on households’ bottom lines than months of sticker shock on everything from Big Macs to daycare might suggest.
              .
              The agency’s analysis took a look at a typical household’s 2019 “consumption bundle”:  the goods and services representing a year’s worth of purchases pre-pandemic. 
              .
              Then, researchers analyzed how much households would pay for that same consumption bundle in 2023 prices, and how much their income rose or fell over the same period. 
              .
              On average, purchasing power for households increased over that period, the agency found.
              .
              “By CBO’s estimate, aggregate income grew more than prices did between 2019 and 2023,” the report states.
              ...
              The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #104

                Snort… this ought to be good…

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Snort… this ought to be good…

                  George KG Offline
                  George KG Offline
                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #105

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

                  Snort… this ought to be good…

                  I was gonna wait, but....

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    Congressional Budget Office's new report:

                    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60166?mod=ANLink

                    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-more-good-news-on-inflation-americans-may-have-a-hard-time-believing-it-bea469da

                    A new report from the Congressional Budget Office released this week shows that inflation may have had less of an impact on households’ bottom lines than months of sticker shock on everything from Big Macs to daycare might suggest.
                    .
                    The agency’s analysis took a look at a typical household’s 2019 “consumption bundle”:  the goods and services representing a year’s worth of purchases pre-pandemic. 
                    .
                    Then, researchers analyzed how much households would pay for that same consumption bundle in 2023 prices, and how much their income rose or fell over the same period. 
                    .
                    On average, purchasing power for households increased over that period, the agency found.
                    .
                    “By CBO’s estimate, aggregate income grew more than prices did between 2019 and 2023,” the report states.
                    ...
                    The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

                    George KG Offline
                    George KG Offline
                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #106

                    @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                    The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

                    Family of four. Now, this is Doordash, so the prices might be higher than at the store, but...

                    Two Big Macs
                    Two Medium Fries
                    Two Happy Meals
                    Two Medium Cokes

                    Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 8.28.52 AM.png

                    $36.12

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #107

                      I’m going to have to dig through the CBO “package” of consumer goods.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                        #108

                        Households in the top income quintile had the largest decline, on average, in the share of income required to pay for their 2019 consumption bundle over that four-year period.

                        So the rich got richer under Biden?

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #109

                          Nowhere in the report does it detail what goods and services were in the packages. An iPhone 11 sold for $750 in 19, and are sold new for $225. It wouldn’t be hard for government agency to game these kind of numbers…

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins DadL Offline
                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #110

                            Average Rent in 2019 was $1465. https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/2019-mid-year-rent-report-national-average-rent-ends-first-half-year-1465/

                            Average rent today is $1716. That’s $3,000 per year. Weekly Real Earnings are up $7 to $365 over 2019’s $358. That’s $364 dollars per year increase.

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                              https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

                              The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

                              Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                              Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

                              taiwan_girlT Offline
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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #111

                              @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                              Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                              But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                              But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                                But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                                But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #112

                                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                the last months of President Trump term

                                Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                  the last months of President Trump term

                                  Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                  taiwan_girlT Offline
                                  taiwan_girlT Offline
                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #113

                                  @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                  the last months of President Trump term

                                  Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                  Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                  George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • George KG George K

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                    the last months of President Trump term

                                    Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                    AxtremusA Away
                                    AxtremusA Away
                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #114

                                    @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                    the last months of President Trump term

                                    Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                    Or optimism buoyed by the expectation of the coming Biden Presidency! 😉

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      the last months of President Trump term

                                      Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                      Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                      George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #115

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                      GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                      taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • George KG Offline
                                        George KG Offline
                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #116

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • George KG George K

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins DadL Offline
                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #117

                                          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                          Meh, prices did go down overall by a small amount, but not even close to a “plummet”. And almost all of the drop was precipitated by eggs, where production is finally getting back on track.

                                          The Brad

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