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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #100

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/05/business/retailers-cutting-prices/index.html

    CNN reports that consumers, even the high-income ones, are becoming more budget conscious. Retailers are marking down prices for items deemed "discretionary spending."

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #101

      https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

      The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

        The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #102

        @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

        https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

        The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

        Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

        Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #103

          Congressional Budget Office's new report:

          https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60166?mod=ANLink

          https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-more-good-news-on-inflation-americans-may-have-a-hard-time-believing-it-bea469da

          A new report from the Congressional Budget Office released this week shows that inflation may have had less of an impact on households’ bottom lines than months of sticker shock on everything from Big Macs to daycare might suggest.
          .
          The agency’s analysis took a look at a typical household’s 2019 “consumption bundle”:  the goods and services representing a year’s worth of purchases pre-pandemic. 
          .
          Then, researchers analyzed how much households would pay for that same consumption bundle in 2023 prices, and how much their income rose or fell over the same period. 
          .
          On average, purchasing power for households increased over that period, the agency found.
          .
          “By CBO’s estimate, aggregate income grew more than prices did between 2019 and 2023,” the report states.
          ...
          The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #104

            Snort… this ought to be good…

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Snort… this ought to be good…

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #105

              @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

              Snort… this ought to be good…

              I was gonna wait, but....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Congressional Budget Office's new report:

                https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60166?mod=ANLink

                https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-more-good-news-on-inflation-americans-may-have-a-hard-time-believing-it-bea469da

                A new report from the Congressional Budget Office released this week shows that inflation may have had less of an impact on households’ bottom lines than months of sticker shock on everything from Big Macs to daycare might suggest.
                .
                The agency’s analysis took a look at a typical household’s 2019 “consumption bundle”:  the goods and services representing a year’s worth of purchases pre-pandemic. 
                .
                Then, researchers analyzed how much households would pay for that same consumption bundle in 2023 prices, and how much their income rose or fell over the same period. 
                .
                On average, purchasing power for households increased over that period, the agency found.
                .
                “By CBO’s estimate, aggregate income grew more than prices did between 2019 and 2023,” the report states.
                ...
                The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #106

                @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

                Family of four. Now, this is Doordash, so the prices might be higher than at the store, but...

                Two Big Macs
                Two Medium Fries
                Two Happy Meals
                Two Medium Cokes

                Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 8.28.52 AM.png

                $36.12

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #107

                  I’m going to have to dig through the CBO “package” of consumer goods.

                  The Brad

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                    #108

                    Households in the top income quintile had the largest decline, on average, in the share of income required to pay for their 2019 consumption bundle over that four-year period.

                    So the rich got richer under Biden?

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #109

                      Nowhere in the report does it detail what goods and services were in the packages. An iPhone 11 sold for $750 in 19, and are sold new for $225. It wouldn’t be hard for government agency to game these kind of numbers…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #110

                        Average Rent in 2019 was $1465. https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/2019-mid-year-rent-report-national-average-rent-ends-first-half-year-1465/

                        Average rent today is $1716. That’s $3,000 per year. Weekly Real Earnings are up $7 to $365 over 2019’s $358. That’s $364 dollars per year increase.

                        The Brad

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                          https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

                          The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

                          Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                          Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

                          taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #111

                          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                          Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                          But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                          But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                            Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                            But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                            But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #112

                            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                            the last months of President Trump term

                            Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                              the last months of President Trump term

                              Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                              taiwan_girlT Offline
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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #113

                              @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                              the last months of President Trump term

                              Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                              Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                the last months of President Trump term

                                Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                AxtremusA Offline
                                AxtremusA Offline
                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #114

                                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                the last months of President Trump term

                                Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                Or optimism buoyed by the expectation of the coming Biden Presidency! 😉

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                  the last months of President Trump term

                                  Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                                  Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                  George KG Offline
                                  George KG Offline
                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #115

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                  to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                  GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                  taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #116

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #117

                                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                      Meh, prices did go down overall by a small amount, but not even close to a “plummet”. And almost all of the drop was precipitated by eggs, where production is finally getting back on track.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #118

                                        "According to the report, they went down 0.02% for the first time in a year. So groceries that used to cost $155 cost $250 in March but “plummeted” to $245 in April! Huge savings! Huge! $5!!!!"

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #119

                                          What bullshit.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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