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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Snort… this ought to be good…

    George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #105

    @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

    Snort… this ought to be good…

    I was gonna wait, but....

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Congressional Budget Office's new report:

      https://www.cbo.gov/publication/60166?mod=ANLink

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/theres-more-good-news-on-inflation-americans-may-have-a-hard-time-believing-it-bea469da

      A new report from the Congressional Budget Office released this week shows that inflation may have had less of an impact on households’ bottom lines than months of sticker shock on everything from Big Macs to daycare might suggest.
      .
      The agency’s analysis took a look at a typical household’s 2019 “consumption bundle”:  the goods and services representing a year’s worth of purchases pre-pandemic. 
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      Then, researchers analyzed how much households would pay for that same consumption bundle in 2023 prices, and how much their income rose or fell over the same period. 
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      On average, purchasing power for households increased over that period, the agency found.
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      “By CBO’s estimate, aggregate income grew more than prices did between 2019 and 2023,” the report states.
      ...
      The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #106

      @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

      The portion of household income required to purchase the same bundle of goods and services decreased by 2% for the lowest-earning quintile of households, and by 6.3% for those in the top group.

      Family of four. Now, this is Doordash, so the prices might be higher than at the store, but...

      Two Big Macs
      Two Medium Fries
      Two Happy Meals
      Two Medium Cokes

      Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 8.28.52 AM.png

      $36.12

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #107

        I’m going to have to dig through the CBO “package” of consumer goods.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #108

          Households in the top income quintile had the largest decline, on average, in the share of income required to pay for their 2019 consumption bundle over that four-year period.

          So the rich got richer under Biden?

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #109

            Nowhere in the report does it detail what goods and services were in the packages. An iPhone 11 sold for $750 in 19, and are sold new for $225. It wouldn’t be hard for government agency to game these kind of numbers…

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #110

              Average Rent in 2019 was $1465. https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/2019-mid-year-rent-report-national-average-rent-ends-first-half-year-1465/

              Average rent today is $1716. That’s $3,000 per year. Weekly Real Earnings are up $7 to $365 over 2019’s $358. That’s $364 dollars per year increase.

              The Brad

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              • George KG George K

                @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

                The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

                Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                #111

                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                  Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

                  But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

                  But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

                  George KG Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #112

                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                  the last months of President Trump term

                  Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                    the last months of President Trump term

                    Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #113

                    @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                    the last months of President Trump term

                    Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                    Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                      the last months of President Trump term

                      Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      #114

                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                      the last months of President Trump term

                      Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                      Or optimism buoyed by the expectation of the coming Biden Presidency! 😉

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                        the last months of President Trump term

                        Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                        Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #115

                        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                        to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                        GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #116

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #117

                            @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                            Meh, prices did go down overall by a small amount, but not even close to a “plummet”. And almost all of the drop was precipitated by eggs, where production is finally getting back on track.

                            The Brad

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              #118

                              "According to the report, they went down 0.02% for the first time in a year. So groceries that used to cost $155 cost $250 in March but “plummeted” to $245 in April! Huge savings! Huge! $5!!!!"

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #119

                                What bullshit.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  What bullshit.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #120

                                  @Mik said in Bidenomics:

                                  What bullshit.

                                  I know they have to try, because some people are just that stupid, but just about anybody in the middle class has felt the pinch of significant inflation during Biden's term.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                    to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                    GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                    taiwan_girl
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                                    #121

                                    @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                    to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                    GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                    Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                                    @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                      GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                      Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                                      @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #122

                                      @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                      I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                                      You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                                      Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                                      But in politics, perception is reality.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                        I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                                        You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                                        Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                                        But in politics, perception is reality.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #123

                                        @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

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                                          #124

                                          Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                          I was only joking

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