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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
    #108

    Households in the top income quintile had the largest decline, on average, in the share of income required to pay for their 2019 consumption bundle over that four-year period.

    So the rich got richer under Biden?

    The Brad

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      #109

      Nowhere in the report does it detail what goods and services were in the packages. An iPhone 11 sold for $750 in 19, and are sold new for $225. It wouldn’t be hard for government agency to game these kind of numbers…

      The Brad

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        #110

        Average Rent in 2019 was $1465. https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/rental-market/2019-mid-year-rent-report-national-average-rent-ends-first-half-year-1465/

        Average rent today is $1716. That’s $3,000 per year. Weekly Real Earnings are up $7 to $365 over 2019’s $358. That’s $364 dollars per year increase.

        The Brad

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        • George KG George K

          @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

          https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/17/markets/dow-closes-above-40-000

          The Dow Jones Industrial Average index closed above 40,000.

          Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

          Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 7.56.27 AM.png

          taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
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          #111

          @George-K said in Bidenomics:

          Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

          But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

          But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @George-K said in Bidenomics:

            Joe still has 8 months to catch the red man's gains.

            But at the same moment in their President, President Biden has higher returns than President Trump. 😛

            But it will be difficult to have increases like the last months of President Trump term.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #112

            @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

            the last months of President Trump term

            Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

              the last months of President Trump term

              Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
              taiwan_girlT Offline
              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #113

              @George-K said in Bidenomics:

              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

              the last months of President Trump term

              Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

              Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

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              • George KG George K

                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                the last months of President Trump term

                Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                AxtremusA Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #114

                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                the last months of President Trump term

                Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                Or optimism buoyed by the expectation of the coming Biden Presidency! 😉

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                  the last months of President Trump term

                  Which were mostly a recovery from the COVID dip.

                  Agree. But both of them are behind Obama, (who maybe is behind Clinton, etc.). To me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #115

                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                  to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                  GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #116

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #117

                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                      Meh, prices did go down overall by a small amount, but not even close to a “plummet”. And almost all of the drop was precipitated by eggs, where production is finally getting back on track.

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        #118

                        "According to the report, they went down 0.02% for the first time in a year. So groceries that used to cost $155 cost $250 in March but “plummeted” to $245 in April! Huge savings! Huge! $5!!!!"

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          #119

                          What bullshit.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            What bullshit.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #120

                            @Mik said in Bidenomics:

                            What bullshit.

                            I know they have to try, because some people are just that stupid, but just about anybody in the middle class has felt the pinch of significant inflation during Biden's term.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                              to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                              GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

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                              #121

                              @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                              to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                              GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                              Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                              @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                to me, it just reinforce my thought that the president gets too much credit/too much blame for the economy.

                                GN52MmOaQAA1F6f.jpeg

                                Why does he have red laser eyes? 😳

                                @Larry and I went back and forth on this. I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship between those and which party was the president. And I would get the typical Larry response: "If you are too dumb to understand that, then I'm not going to tell you." LOL

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #122

                                @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                                You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                                Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                                But in politics, perception is reality.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                  I would ask him to give me his any five indicators of the economy (GDP grow, inflation, stock market, unemployment, etc etc etc) and I would pretty much show him that there was very little to no relationship

                                  You may well be right. But James Carville will disagree, at least when it comes to politics.

                                  Of course, politics might bear no relation to reality.

                                  But in politics, perception is reality.

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #123

                                  @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #124

                                    Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #125

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bidenomics:

                                      Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                      Have you tried offering 7-figures?

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Bidenomics:

                                        Somewhat related: I'm currently trying to hire - we're offering 6-figures for a basic engineering position. So far we've had all of two applicants, both referrals, and both only want to work remotely, which isn't going to happen.

                                        Have you tried offering 7-figures?

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #126

                                        @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                                        Have you tried offering 7-figures?

                                        I'd take the job if they offered that much.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #127

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Bidenomics:

                                          @George-K Agree. For probably the majority of people (and I dont really know majority % is) vote on emotional thinking rather than rational thinking.

                                          Most of my income currently is fixed. If you don't think people in my situation have not noticed how their income has shrunk under Biden, you are delusional.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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