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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

    Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.

    The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.

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    Horace
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    @Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

    I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

    Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.

    The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.

    You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

      I think there's a real danger of turning every bad thing into being about wokeness. This is about people ignoring safety protocols, and people have been doing this sort of thing for centuries. Don Blankenship of Massey Energy is a good example, and you couldn't find a less woke individual. Scott of the Antarctic also springs to mind, although at least he wasn't taking unsuspecting tourists along with him.

      I agree that the 'woke' thing is a sideshow in this case. This failure was about engineering hubris.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @Renauda said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

        I doubt the Trump boys would go around making fun of old white military officers and their fuddy duddy ways.

        Maybe not make fun but subject them to unwarranted derision as happened to H. R. McMaster, John Kelly and James Mattis.

        The Trump crowd/boys are every bit as losthesome as their left wing opponents in this regard.

        You can think what you will about that criticism, but by no principle is military immune to critics. What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.

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        Renauda
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        #54

        @Horace

        What people should in principle be immune from, is criticism based on their skin color.

        I don’t believe that is limited to the left or wokeness. It stems from ignorance and fear and there is an abundance of both of those irrespective of ideology

        Elbows up!

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #55

          Nice graphic from the WSJ

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Can you copy and post it? I can't see it. Paywall.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Although I have a pretty good idea.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                89th
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                #58

                Link to video

                I remember seeing this a while back. The Titan(ic) is shown at 3:30.

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                  George K
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                  #59

                  Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 1.19.05 PM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #60

                    So even if they find them…

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      So even if they find them…

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                      George K
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                      So even if they find them…

                      That's sort of what @Klaus was alluding to. Even if found, actually bringing it to the surface in time is a daunting task. Does the Titan even have any kind of rescue-attaching thingamabobs?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I'm fairly confident the Titan will never be found. It took forever to find the Titanic.

                        Unrelated, how are squids not crushed to death at that depth? (Answered it as I typed this, google says its because creatures like that are made mostly of water and/or do not have air that can be compressed in)

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                          George K
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                          #63

                          At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            I'm fairly confident the Titan will never be found. It took forever to find the Titanic.

                            Unrelated, how are squids not crushed to death at that depth? (Answered it as I typed this, google says its because creatures like that are made mostly of water and/or do not have air that can be compressed in)

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                            Renauda
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                            #64

                            @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                            I'm fairly confident the Titan will never be found. It took forever to find the Titanic.

                            That’s because it took us forever to develop and deploy the technology to find it. Once that technology was available - thank you, Cold War era investment and engineers - it was just a matter of time to hone the skills to deploy it for archeological endeavours.

                            We have the technical means to locate Titan. Curiosity as well. I am sure there will also be the investment to make it happen.

                            Elbows up!

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                              I think we can find it.

                              But should we attempt to raise it?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                I think we can find it.

                                But should we attempt to raise it?

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @Jolly said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                I think we can find it.

                                But should we attempt to raise it?

                                Depends on how soon we can find it.

                                The Brad

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                                • George KG George K

                                  At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                  At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

                                  But altogether, those donations are consistently Republican and include George Bush for President in 1979, the Illinois Republican State Central Committee in 1980, Citizens to Elect Rick Larsen in 2022, and friends of Mike McGavick in both 2000 and 2005.

                                  Okay, these people need to be mocked mercilessly.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    I think we can find it.

                                    But should we attempt to raise it?

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #68

                                    @Jolly said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    I think we can find it.

                                    But should we attempt to raise it?

                                    I too am sure we will locate it or what’s left of it. Don’t wish to speculate as to when.

                                    As to should we attempt to raise it? Good question. I believe though the curiosity at numerous levels will insist on it if practicable. The desire to answer the how and why surrounding this incident will be just too intense.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
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                                      Too soon?

                                      Screenshot 2023-06-21 at 7.14.55 PM.png

                                      355687138_6911746418853033_8860072694838545624_n.jpg

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        Too soon.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

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                                          @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                          At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

                                          The tweet has been deleted.

                                          The internet is forever:

                                          image.jpeg

                                          So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

                                          image.jpeg

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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