Robert E Lee

[Doctor Phibes]

@Jolly said in Robert E Lee:

@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

He went on to say:

"They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.

[Jolly]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Robert E Lee:

@Jolly said in Robert E Lee:

@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

He went on to say:

"They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.

Do try to keep things straight, Phibby.

[Larry]

It all started when we started letting Brits in.....

[Doctor Phibes]

Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.

Not necessarily in that order.

[Copper]

@89th said in Robert E Lee:

So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.

https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082

“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. Lee

American general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)

[Catseye3]

@Copper “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. Lee

Thanks, Copper

[Catseye3]

Regarding this quote of Gen. Lee's that Copper just posted, I wonder if it would be worth spreading it about in social media. It has a lot of power, and it could raise some consciousness.

There has to be some meeting of the minds. We can't snipe at each other forever. This could be a good way to begin.

[Improviso]

@Catseye3 said in Robert E Lee:

We can't snipe at each other forever

Oh yea???

It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.

[Catseye3]

@Improviso Oh yea??? It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.

Fine. Let's just keep on with the hate and the refusal to accommodate. We've been doing that since cave times.

Excerpt from Nightmare in Pink by John D. MacDonald, published in 1964:

"New York is where it is going to begin, I think. You can see it coming. The insect experts have learned how it works with locusts. Until locust population reaches a certain density, they all act like any grasshoppers. When the critical moment is reached, they turn savage and swarm, and try to eat the world. We’re nearing a critical point. One day soon two strangers will bump into each other at high noon in the middle of New York. But this time they won’t snarl and go on. They will stop and stare and then leap at each other’s throats in a dreadful silence. The infection will spread outward from that point. Old ladies will crack skulls with their deadly handbags. Cars will plunge down the crowded sidewalks. Drivers will be torn out of their cars and stomped. It will spread to all the huge cities of the world, and by dawn of the next day there will be a horrid silence of sprawled bodies and tumbled vehicles, gutted buildings and a few wisps of smoke. And through that silence will prowl a few of the most powerful ones, ragged and bloody, slowly tracking each other down."

And the few survivors will have the satisfaction of knowing that by God, at least they didn't give up anything to those bastards.

[jon-nyc]

@Copper said in Robert E Lee:

“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. Lee

But...but...but... the war had nothing to do with slavery!!!

[Copper]

It was important for some

If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

[89th]

Interesting quotes, thanks @Copper

[Copper]

His quotes above are clear.

The Lincoln Memorial has to go.

Sorry, but it is the right thing to do.

After all, he was the president of the confederate states before and after the civil war. And, according to some, during the war as well.

The buck stops with Abe.

[Rainman]

How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.

[89th]

@Rainman said in Robert E Lee:

How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.

https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/21/feature-request-a-like-button

[Rainman]

OK, if not a "like" button, how about a "I agree" or "good post" or something else akin to communicating with a dog.

"Good Job" "Makes Sense" "Nice Post" "Very Thoughtful" "Ax" "Reported to Authorities" or something besides like/dislike.

Even Jon's "Jesus" would be a good one.

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

@Copper said in Robert E Lee:

“There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
Robert E. Lee

But...but...but... the war had nothing to do with slavery!!!

Yep, you can gather that, from the quote.

[George K]

@Rainman said in Robert E Lee:

OK, if not a "like" button, how about a "I agree" or "good post" or something else akin to communicating with a dog.

"Good Job" "Makes Sense" "Nice Post" "Very Thoughtful" "Ax" "Reported to Authorities" or something besides like/dislike.

Even Jon's "Jesus" would be a good one.

[89th]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8413185/CNN-analyst-calls-remove-George-Washington-Thomas-Jefferson-statues-owned-slaves.html

[George K]

@89th those pictures....