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    MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

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      @jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

      MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

      I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

      I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Larry
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        #53

        This all started when we let the queers out.......,

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #54

          Athens in the 5th century BC?

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

            MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

            I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

            I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

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            @Jolly said in Robert E Lee:

            @jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

            MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

            I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

            I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

            He went on to say:

            "They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

            Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.

            I was only joking

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              @Jolly said in Robert E Lee:

              @jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

              MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

              I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

              I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

              He went on to say:

              "They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

              Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Robert E Lee:

              @Jolly said in Robert E Lee:

              @jon-nyc said in Robert E Lee:

              MLK had totally deprecated views on homosexuality. Can’t even imagine what he might have thought about women with penises and men who menstruate.

              I thought his views were straight forward and Biblical. As with most things today, the LGBTQXYRZ community is engaged in higher forms of pretzel logic, claiming King was A-O-tay with homosexuality.

              I thought Martin Luther actually said it better... " The vice of the Sodomites is an unparalleled enormity. It departs from the natural passion and desire, planted into nature by God, according to which the male has a passionate desire for the female. "

              He went on to say:

              "They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and "these poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[W]e are at fault in not slaying them".

              Oh silly me, he wasn't talking about homosexuals here, but about the Jews. Thank God nobody in Germany picked up on this sort of talk.

              Do try to keep things straight, Phibby.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Larry
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                It all started when we started letting Brits in.....

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.

                  Not necessarily in that order.

                  I was only joking

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years. I was texting with my 3 buddies and they were shocked to hear that I thought the removal was a shame, and they also thought that “Lee decided to defend slavery, period” whereas my position is he was dedicated to his state, and he (and most who died in the war) deserve to have their dedication to their state honored.

                    Our text chain went on for a while, and we made a number of additional points (opinions and facts) but I’m curious.... your thoughts on Lee in the context of his legacy and history?

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                    @89th said in Robert E Lee:

                    So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.

                    https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082

                    “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
                    Robert E. Lee

                    American general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @89th said in Robert E Lee:

                      So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.

                      https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082

                      “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
                      Robert E. Lee

                      American general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)

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                      @Copper “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
                      Robert E. Lee

                      Thanks, Copper

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Regarding this quote of Gen. Lee's that Copper just posted, I wonder if it would be worth spreading it about in social media. It has a lot of power, and it could raise some consciousness.

                        There has to be some meeting of the minds. We can't snipe at each other forever. This could be a good way to begin.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          Regarding this quote of Gen. Lee's that Copper just posted, I wonder if it would be worth spreading it about in social media. It has a lot of power, and it could raise some consciousness.

                          There has to be some meeting of the minds. We can't snipe at each other forever. This could be a good way to begin.

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                          @Catseye3 said in Robert E Lee:

                          We can't snipe at each other forever

                          Oh yea???

                          It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong. 🤜 ✋ 🤛

                          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                          • ImprovisoI Improviso

                            @Catseye3 said in Robert E Lee:

                            We can't snipe at each other forever

                            Oh yea???

                            It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong. 🤜 ✋ 🤛

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                            @Improviso Oh yea??? It's been 17+ years since OCR and we're still going strong.

                            Fine. Let's just keep on with the hate and the refusal to accommodate. We've been doing that since cave times.

                            Excerpt from Nightmare in Pink by John D. MacDonald, published in 1964:

                            "New York is where it is going to begin, I think. You can see it coming. The insect experts have learned how it works with locusts. Until locust population reaches a certain density, they all act like any grasshoppers. When the critical moment is reached, they turn savage and swarm, and try to eat the world. We’re nearing a critical point. One day soon two strangers will bump into each other at high noon in the middle of New York. But this time they won’t snarl and go on. They will stop and stare and then leap at each other’s throats in a dreadful silence. The infection will spread outward from that point. Old ladies will crack skulls with their deadly handbags. Cars will plunge down the crowded sidewalks. Drivers will be torn out of their cars and stomped. It will spread to all the huge cities of the world, and by dawn of the next day there will be a horrid silence of sprawled bodies and tumbled vehicles, gutted buildings and a few wisps of smoke. And through that silence will prowl a few of the most powerful ones, ragged and bloody, slowly tracking each other down."

                            And the few survivors will have the satisfaction of knowing that by God, at least they didn't give up anything to those bastards.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @89th said in Robert E Lee:

                              So in Richmond, VA they are removing a Robert E Lee statue that has stood for 130+ years.

                              https://www.quotes.net/quote/15082

                              “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
                              Robert E. Lee

                              American general who led the Confederate Armies in the American Civil War (1807-1870)

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                              @Copper said in Robert E Lee:

                              “There is a terrible war coming, and these young men who have never seen war cannot wait for it to happen, but I tell you, I wish that I owned every slave in the South, for I would free them all to avoid this war.
                              Robert E. Lee

                              But...but...but... the war had nothing to do with slavery!!!

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • CopperC Online
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                                Copper
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                                It was important for some

                                If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

                                http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

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                                • 89th8 Online
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                                  Interesting quotes, thanks @Copper

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                                  • CopperC Online
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                                    Copper
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                                    His quotes above are clear.

                                    The Lincoln Memorial has to go.

                                    Sorry, but it is the right thing to do.

                                    After all, he was the president of the confederate states before and after the civil war. And, according to some, during the war as well.

                                    The buck stops with Abe.

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                                      How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
                                      Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.

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                                      • RainmanR Rainman

                                        How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
                                        Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.

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                                        @Rainman said in Robert E Lee:

                                        How come we can't have "like" buttons, like the old days?
                                        Not that I'd ever use it. Just wondering.

                                        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/21/feature-request-a-like-button

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                                          OK, if not a "like" button, how about a "I agree" or "good post" or something else akin to communicating with a dog.

                                          "Good Job" "Makes Sense" "Nice Post" "Very Thoughtful" "Ax" "Reported to Authorities" or something besides like/dislike.

                                          Even Jon's "Jesus" would be a good one.

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