The Ukraine war thread
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Sounds like an abdication of American leadership in the west.
Putin’s advocacy for conservative values is utterly self serving. We need not think he’s committed to them. They just sell domestically and now apparently here.
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Sounds like an abdication of American leadership in the west.
Putin’s advocacy for conservative values is utterly self serving. We need not think he’s committed to them. They just sell domestically and now apparently here.
@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:
Putin’s advocacy for conservative values is utterly self serving.
You could say the same about the other guy in the photo too.
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Security guarantees. Didn't we already do that in Budapest? Does anyone believe we will go to war if Russia rearms and restarts the fight?
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I do. Putin got away with it in 2014 and again in 2022. He has to know beyond any doubt that if and when there is a next time, Western troops are coming to Ukraine’s aid. That does not necessarily include the US but it does not preclude it either.
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More on that. Good piece.
https://www.fpri.org/article/2014/03/ukraine-and-the-misunderstood-budapest-memorandum/
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@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:
Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?
Good question. I guess Angela Merkel and Barak Obama preferred not to escalate matters much beyond indignation and a strongly worded letter or two. Oh yes, and a few weak to moderate sanctions which only strengthened the Russian agri-food sector and energy industries. For its part, NATO members began training Ukrainian soldiers in NATO warfare techniques as the first steps towards eventual integration into the alliance.
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