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  • R Renauda
    8 Apr 2022, 15:28

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

    This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

    As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

    1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
    2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
    3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

    I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

    From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

    And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 18:15 last edited by
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    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

    This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

    As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

    1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
    2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
    3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

    I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

    From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

    And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

    Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      8 Apr 2022, 18:15

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

      This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

      As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

      1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
      2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
      3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

      I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

      From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

      And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

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      Copper
      wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 18:32 last edited by
      #258

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        8 Apr 2022, 18:15

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

        This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

        As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

        1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
        2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
        3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

        I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

        From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

        And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:10 last edited by
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        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

        Given enough time, another "world war" is pretty much a sure thing unless:

        1. We get invaded by aliens (from outer space) first
        2. We migrate off planet Earth first
        3. Another global catastrophe got the human race first (pandemic, climate change, mad science gone bad, big meteor, etc.)
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        • C Copper
          8 Apr 2022, 18:32

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

          Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

          The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:13 last edited by
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          @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

          Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

          The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

          If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

          Elbows up!

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          • C Copper
            8 Apr 2022, 18:32

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:49 last edited by
            #261

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

            Nuclear bomb detonates in Paris. Americans wonder what effect this will have on the mid-terms.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
              wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:56 last edited by
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              entire societies can be moved by artful messaging. Why wouldn't someone observe and comment on that messaging? I mean unless they're like a fish not observing and commenting on the water.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Mik
                wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 21:03 last edited by
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                Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  8 Apr 2022, 21:03

                  Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 22:55 last edited by
                  #264

                  @Mik

                  Psy-fi-ops.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 22:56 last edited by
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                    It would likely be more effective had they not put it in the news.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • R Renauda
                      8 Apr 2022, 20:13

                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                      If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 23:44 last edited by
                      #266

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                      If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                      Maybe you missed it

                      The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                      Mr. Biden is a war hero

                      Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

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                      • C Copper
                        8 Apr 2022, 23:44

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                        Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                        The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                        If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                        Maybe you missed it

                        The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                        Mr. Biden is a war hero

                        Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 23:49 last edited by Renauda 4 Sept 2022, 00:29
                        #267

                        @Copper

                        Sorry I missed it. I however watch unAmerican slick media. None of that pop kulture stuff like CNN or Fux.

                        Might try to do better next time

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 9 Apr 2022, 23:55 last edited by
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                          Updated:

                          Screen Shot 2022-04-09 at 6.54.50 PM.png

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 09:50 last edited by
                            #269

                            Interesting thread on the support for Putin of Russian speakers outside Russia.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 10:56 last edited by
                              #270

                              Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
                                wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:07 last edited by
                                #271

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:11 last edited by
                                  #272

                                  Thanks @jon-nyc . Fascinating mindset.

                                  Meanwhile, if you're keeping score...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:12 last edited by
                                    #273

                                    image.jpeg

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:19 last edited by
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                                      Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-lost-the-battle-for-kyiv-with-its-hasty-assault-on-a-ukrainian-airport/ar-AAW3z8L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c129069f9e664ed1aea6a069e81afead

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        10 Apr 2022, 11:12

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        image.jpeg

                                        What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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                                          Examine the picture and you will have your answer.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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