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    Mik
    wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 20:18 last edited by
    #213

    "We have taken Chernobyl".

    "Oh, wait.. you can have it back..."

    https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/31/russians-leave-chernobyl-site-as-fighting-rages-elsewhere/

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      George K
      wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 21:37 last edited by
      #214

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 21:59 last edited by
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        The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          1 Apr 2022, 21:59

          The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

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          George K
          wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 22:00 last edited by
          #216

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

          They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            1 Apr 2022, 12:13

            Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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            George K
            wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 22:18 last edited by
            #217

            Bret Baier: "Did you order the attack on Russian oil depot?"

            Zelensky: "I'm sorry, I don't discuss strategic decisions I make."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • C Copper
              23 Mar 2022, 15:38

              An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

              See Jimmy Doolittle

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              George K
              wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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              @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

              An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

              See Jimmy Doolittle

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Copper
                wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 13:56 last edited by
                #219

                They are going to Moscow.

                11 hours, with tolls

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 14:40 last edited by
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                  Worth reading:

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                  Elbows up!

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:09 last edited by
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                    Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • R Renauda
                      2 Apr 2022, 14:40

                      Worth reading:

                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

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                      George K
                      wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:43 last edited by
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                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Worth reading:

                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                      This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:49 last edited by
                        #223

                        War crimes.

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 18:02 last edited by Mik 4 Feb 2022, 18:03
                          #224

                          This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            2 Apr 2022, 18:02

                            This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 22:33 last edited by Renauda 4 Mar 2022, 01:18
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                            @Mik

                            Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                            Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                            Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • R Renauda
                              2 Apr 2022, 22:33

                              @Mik

                              Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                              Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                              Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 22:35 last edited by
                              #226

                              @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                2 Apr 2022, 15:49

                                War crimes.

                                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 01:16 last edited by Renauda 4 Mar 2022, 01:17
                                #227

                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                War crimes.

                                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                                Wait! There’s more:

                                https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/4/2/almost-300-buried-in-mass-grave-in-bucha-near-kyiv-mayor

                                Elbows up!

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                                • G George K
                                  2 Apr 2022, 22:35

                                  @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 01:25 last edited by
                                  #228

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                  Depend what he wants you to think.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • G George K
                                    2 Apr 2022, 15:49

                                    War crimes.

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 12:50 last edited by George K 4 Mar 2022, 12:52
                                    #229

                                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    War crimes.

                                    Watch the entire horrific 1 minute video.

                                    Later in the thread there are ghastly pictures of bodies, bound and hooded. And one, put into what looks like a storm drain.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 13:01 last edited by
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                                      Cementing hatred for generations.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 3 Apr 2022, 22:03 last edited by
                                        #231

                                        More war crimes: torture.

                                        And, of course, Russia denies:

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 4 Apr 2022, 10:02 last edited by
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                                          Wow. Zalensky pills no punches.

                                          And names names - Singling out Merkel and Sarkozy for blocking the path to NATO membership 14 years ago.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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