The Ukraine war thread

[Copper]

I knew it, the Ukrainians are going to end up marching down Main Street in Moscow.

Then we will all become supporters of Russia.

[Klaus]

The Ukraine has captured all these vehicles and stuff from the Russians.

Here's one thing I don't understand: Why don't the Russians destroy their stuff when they abandon it? It can't be so hard to set a truck on fire.

[Mik]

Perhaps because the Russian soldiers don't like what they are doing and don't give a rat's ass if Ukraine gets more weapons.

[George K]

[Axtremus]

Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors. :man-shrugging:

[George K]

@Axtremus https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-zelensky-fires-general-traitors-naumov-andriy-olehovych-kryvoruchko-serhiy-oleksandrovych-1694105

The Ukrainian president accused the two officials of failing to do their duty and protect Ukraine.

He also warned that they "will all be punished," but said he did not currently have time to deal with them.

"Now, I do not have time to deal with all the traitors. But gradually they will all be punished," Zelensky said in his address.

[Mik]

"We have taken Chernobyl".

"Oh, wait.. you can have it back..."

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/31/russians-leave-chernobyl-site-as-fighting-rages-elsewhere/

[George K]

[Mik]

The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

[George K]

[George K]

@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

See Jimmy Doolittle

[Copper]

They are going to Moscow.

11 hours, with tolls

[Renauda]

Worth reading:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

[Mik]

Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

[George K]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

Worth reading:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

[George K]

War crimes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

[Mik]

This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

[Renauda]

@Mik

Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

[George K]

@Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?