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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #214

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #215

      The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

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        George K
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        #216

        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

        The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

        They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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          George K
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          #217

          Bret Baier: "Did you order the attack on Russian oil depot?"

          Zelensky: "I'm sorry, I don't discuss strategic decisions I make."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Copper

            An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

            See Jimmy Doolittle

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #218

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

            See Jimmy Doolittle

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #219

              They are going to Moscow.

              11 hours, with tolls

              685e61c8-1d47-4fec-9156-3f6ec09bb843-image.png

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
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                #220

                Worth reading:

                https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Worth reading:

                    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #222

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Worth reading:

                    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                    This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #223

                      War crimes.

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #224

                        This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

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                          Renauda
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                          #225

                          @Mik

                          Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                          Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                          Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @Mik

                            Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                            Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                            Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

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                            George K
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                            #226

                            @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              War crimes.

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                              Renauda
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                              #227

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              War crimes.

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                              Wait! There’s more:

                              https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/4/2/almost-300-buried-in-mass-grave-in-bucha-near-kyiv-mayor

                              Elbows up!

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                Depend what he wants you to think.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  War crimes.

                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by George K
                                  #229

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  War crimes.

                                  Watch the entire horrific 1 minute video.

                                  Later in the thread there are ghastly pictures of bodies, bound and hooded. And one, put into what looks like a storm drain.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #230

                                    Cementing hatred for generations.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #231

                                      More war crimes: torture.

                                      And, of course, Russia denies:

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Wow. Zalensky pills no punches.

                                        And names names - Singling out Merkel and Sarkozy for blocking the path to NATO membership 14 years ago.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • KlausK Offline
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                                          Well, he is right about that.

                                          My rants about Merkel are well-documented here 🙂 But most Germans still believe she was a good chancellor. We are still in denial about a large number of issues.

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