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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #211

    Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors. :man-shrugging:

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors. :man-shrugging:

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      George K
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      @Axtremus https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-zelensky-fires-general-traitors-naumov-andriy-olehovych-kryvoruchko-serhiy-oleksandrovych-1694105

      The Ukrainian president accused the two officials of failing to do their duty and protect Ukraine.

      He also warned that they "will all be punished," but said he did not currently have time to deal with them.

      "Now, I do not have time to deal with all the traitors. But gradually they will all be punished," Zelensky said in his address.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        "We have taken Chernobyl".

        "Oh, wait.. you can have it back..."

        https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/31/russians-leave-chernobyl-site-as-fighting-rages-elsewhere/

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #214

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #215

            The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

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              George K
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              #216

              @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

              The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

              They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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                Bret Baier: "Did you order the attack on Russian oil depot?"

                Zelensky: "I'm sorry, I don't discuss strategic decisions I make."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                  See Jimmy Doolittle

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                  George K
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                  @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                  See Jimmy Doolittle

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    #219

                    They are going to Moscow.

                    11 hours, with tolls

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      #220

                      Worth reading:

                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                      Elbows up!

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          Worth reading:

                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

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                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          Worth reading:

                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                          This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            War crimes.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #224

                              This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

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                                Renauda
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                                #225

                                @Mik

                                Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                                Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                                Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @Mik

                                  Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                                  Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                                  Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    War crimes.

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #227

                                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    War crimes.

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                                    Wait! There’s more:

                                    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/4/2/almost-300-buried-in-mass-grave-in-bucha-near-kyiv-mayor

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

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                                      #228

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                      Depend what he wants you to think.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        War crimes.

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by George K
                                        #229

                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        War crimes.

                                        Watch the entire horrific 1 minute video.

                                        Later in the thread there are ghastly pictures of bodies, bound and hooded. And one, put into what looks like a storm drain.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          Cementing hatred for generations.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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