The Ukraine war thread

[Axtremus]

Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors.

[George K]

@Axtremus https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-zelensky-fires-general-traitors-naumov-andriy-olehovych-kryvoruchko-serhiy-oleksandrovych-1694105

The Ukrainian president accused the two officials of failing to do their duty and protect Ukraine.

He also warned that they "will all be punished," but said he did not currently have time to deal with them.

"Now, I do not have time to deal with all the traitors. But gradually they will all be punished," Zelensky said in his address.

[Mik]

"We have taken Chernobyl".

"Oh, wait.. you can have it back..."

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/31/russians-leave-chernobyl-site-as-fighting-rages-elsewhere/

[George K]

[Mik]

The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

[George K]

@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

[George K]

Bret Baier: "Did you order the attack on Russian oil depot?"

Zelensky: "I'm sorry, I don't discuss strategic decisions I make."

[George K]

@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

See Jimmy Doolittle

[Copper]

They are going to Moscow.

11 hours, with tolls

[Renauda]

Worth reading:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

[Mik]

Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

[George K]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

Worth reading:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

[George K]

War crimes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

[Mik]

This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

[Renauda]

@Mik

Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

[George K]

@Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

[Renauda]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

War crimes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

Wait! There’s more:

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/4/2/almost-300-buried-in-mass-grave-in-bucha-near-kyiv-mayor

[Mik]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

@Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

Depend what he wants you to think.

[George K]

@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

War crimes.

Watch the entire horrific 1 minute video.

Later in the thread there are ghastly pictures of bodies, bound and hooded. And one, put into what looks like a storm drain.

[Mik]

Cementing hatred for generations.