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    Copper
    wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 15:40 last edited by
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    I knew it, the Ukrainians are going to end up marching down Main Street in Moscow.

    Then we will all become supporters of Russia.

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      Klaus
      wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 16:57 last edited by
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      The Ukraine has captured all these vehicles and stuff from the Russians.

      Here's one thing I don't understand: Why don't the Russians destroy their stuff when they abandon it? It can't be so hard to set a truck on fire.

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        Mik
        wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 19:12 last edited by
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        Perhaps because the Russian soldiers don't like what they are doing and don't give a rat's ass if Ukraine gets more weapons.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          George K
          wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 19:28 last edited by
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          Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 2.27.36 PM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 19:40 last edited by
            #211

            Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors. :man-shrugging:

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            • A Axtremus
              1 Apr 2022, 19:40

              Saw somewhere in the news that Zelensky removed two Ukrainian Generals for being traitors. :man-shrugging:

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              George K
              wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 19:44 last edited by
              #212

              @Axtremus https://www.newsweek.com/volodymyr-zelensky-fires-general-traitors-naumov-andriy-olehovych-kryvoruchko-serhiy-oleksandrovych-1694105

              The Ukrainian president accused the two officials of failing to do their duty and protect Ukraine.

              He also warned that they "will all be punished," but said he did not currently have time to deal with them.

              "Now, I do not have time to deal with all the traitors. But gradually they will all be punished," Zelensky said in his address.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 20:18 last edited by
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                "We have taken Chernobyl".

                "Oh, wait.. you can have it back..."

                https://www.denverpost.com/2022/03/31/russians-leave-chernobyl-site-as-fighting-rages-elsewhere/

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  George K
                  wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 21:37 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 21:59 last edited by
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                    The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      1 Apr 2022, 21:59

                      The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 22:00 last edited by
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                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      The crew survived? hell, it blew the whole tail off the thing.

                      They probably ran away saying, "Fuck it."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        1 Apr 2022, 12:13

                        Imagine that, you invade a country, and are shocked when they push back.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 1 Apr 2022, 22:18 last edited by
                        #217

                        Bret Baier: "Did you order the attack on Russian oil depot?"

                        Zelensky: "I'm sorry, I don't discuss strategic decisions I make."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • C Copper
                          23 Mar 2022, 15:38

                          An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                          See Jimmy Doolittle

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                          George K
                          wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 12:32 last edited by
                          #218

                          @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          An attack on Moscow would do wonders for morale.

                          See Jimmy Doolittle

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 13:56 last edited by
                            #219

                            They are going to Moscow.

                            11 hours, with tolls

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 14:40 last edited by
                              #220

                              Worth reading:

                              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:09 last edited by
                                #221

                                Yep. With twenty recent years of war under our belt, one would think we'd have a better perception of rival armies.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • R Renauda
                                  2 Apr 2022, 14:40

                                  Worth reading:

                                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:43 last edited by
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                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Worth reading:

                                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/russia-ukraine-invasion-military-predictions/629418/?fbclid=IwAR1Rs-ag5rcaaHLxehN_9QeW4v47Lmtp-8FPJ_PxjqgGNg2IvXYYmled158

                                  This sort of dovetails with the article that said that Russia was still fighting in World War II style.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 15:49 last edited by
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                                    War crimes.

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 18:02 last edited by Mik 4 Feb 2022, 18:03
                                      #224

                                      This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • M Mik
                                        2 Apr 2022, 18:02

                                        This is an interesting way to look at it. What if Putin did not miscalculate all along, but the West misread his intentions?

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stephens-what-if-putin-didn-t-miscalculate/ar-AAVMHsh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0d41292d515745b38f14675aa48e9f9b

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 22:33 last edited by Renauda 4 Mar 2022, 01:18
                                        #225

                                        @Mik

                                        Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                                        Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                                        Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          2 Apr 2022, 22:33

                                          @Mik

                                          Interesting but thin on credible supporting sources. Referring to David Knight Legg as an expert on energy alone undermines his argument.

                                          Putin is a KGB hood not a calculating genius to try and pull off a heist worthy of a Bond villain as the oped suggests.

                                          Sometimes an imperialist despot is just an imperialist despot. Nothing more.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 2 Apr 2022, 22:35 last edited by
                                          #226

                                          @Renauda yeah. If southeastern Ukraine was his goal all the time, would he have committed all the personnel and materiel around Kiev?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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