The hammer came down yesterday.
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@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.
How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:25 last edited by@89th said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.
How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.
About 30%, at least in my neck of the woods.
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@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:27 last edited by@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
Damn, you're smart!
Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:28 last edited by
If they could test for stupidity, Ax wouldn't be allowed to give blood at all.
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@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
Damn, you're smart!
Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:32 last edited by@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
Damn, you're smart!
Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.
He's just pissed off because he's had at least a month to offer up even one tiny little reason to be proud of Joe Biden and he can't do it...
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@aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:33 last edited by@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.
A lot of professions have become terrible politicized as of late.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:39 last edited by
I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs
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@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.
Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.
Your ability to miss the point …
Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.
Damn, you're smart!
Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:49 last edited by@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
I don't see how you function in society.
AX: Mom,let me introduce my girlfriend.
MOM: You couldn't find anything better?
AX: Leave me alone, I love her.
MOM: Shut up! I'm speaking to her.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 15:50 last edited by
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs
Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 17:56 last edited by
@axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.
Oh good, now we are down to negotiating
a priceprobabilities.Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?
Hey, shithead, I don't question Jon's knowledge of finance, Mik's expertise in legacy hospital information systems, Aqua's power of the pen, George's knowledge of how to pass gas or LuFin's knowledge of the current piano market. I've spent 41 years in the clinical lab biz, with a three year stint in immunohematology. Shit, I'm sitting in a hospital as I type this, jaw-jacking with the lab staff...About a fourth of them used to work for me.
If I'm going to hang a unit on a patient, I want it to the best I can give them. Admittedly, COVID has thrown a monkey-wrench into things. I had a bleeder last weekend that I could not get A neg for...I told the doc to put a cork in him and we would try to get some blood out of Texas. Luckily, we did, about the time his hgb hit 7. If not, I'd already made the decision to use A POS and try to keep him alive until we could find blood or the antibodies kicked in on subsequent units and killed him. Why no O neg, you say? Solid gold, friend. We're in such a bind for the universal donor emergency stuff, we treat it like the jewel it is. Usually, when you change types to something else compatible you hang with it, but you can't hang what you ain't got.
The doc makes the final decisions, but there are times when the best advice I can give, is crappy advice. But, c'est la vie.
Now, tell me what you know about crossmatch procedures and compatible blood. I've got a family if Bombay's in the area and I'd love to hear your learned thoughts.
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@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs
Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 18:33 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs
Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.
Preach on. I remember the old days, when doctors ran hospitals ... Not that it was all sunshine and roses, but at least we knew why we were there.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 19:58 last edited by
True, but there are still a lot of medical folks in upper management.
I stand by my statement. When push comes to show they cannot lose 30%, or even 10%, of their nursing staff.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 22:32 last edited by
I don't think they will. I think guys will raise Cain, but the hospital pays better than other nursing jobs, at least most of the time. I think you'll actually see 3-5%.
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wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 22:59 last edited by
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
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We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
wrote on 17 Nov 2021, 23:54 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
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wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 00:10 last edited by
Wait until they figure out that most nurses are female.
That will make this mandate misogyny
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@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 00:16 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
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@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 00:41 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?
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@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 00:46 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Wife's company basically had the same policy.
Her employer has employees all across the country. Prior to the policy update, the vaccination rate was already 90% company-wide.
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@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?
wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 12:57 last edited by@horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?
He's getting vaccinated.
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@horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?
He's getting vaccinated.
wrote on 18 Nov 2021, 13:44 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
@doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:
We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.
No testing option?
Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.
Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?
He's getting vaccinated.
Curious about something and you might be the perfect person to ask…
Let’s say an employee is on the record as being against the vaccine, but under the threat of being placed on unpaid leave they get the vaccine. As shitty ass luck would have it, they wind up being part of the .0025% that die from the vaccine. Is there a threat of damages on the company? Obviously there wouldn’t be under the OSHA mandate but since that has been suspended it is now an employer position…