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The hammer came down yesterday.

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  • MikM Mik

    Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

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    Axtremus
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    #10

    @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

    Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

    Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

      Are you sure you want into this discussion with a guy who used to inspect blood banks?

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      Axtremus
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      @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

      Are you sure you want into this discussion with a guy who used to inspect blood banks?

      Yes, bring it.

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      • MikM Mik

        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

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        #12

        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

        Personally, I think that's too lenient. The primary purpose of screening questions and actual testing is to provide the safest product possible. after all, blood is a drug and has to meet FDA standards. Screening tests can and do give an occasional false negative.

        It's a stone cold bitch to walk into a patient's room and tell the parent of a 16 year-old MVA patient that the blood she received may have been erroneously tested and now measures have to be taken to try to prevent disease, such as hepatitis or HIV.

        Or, reaching into the dim mists of time, does anybody remember the massive HCV look-back program?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

          Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

          Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

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          @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

          @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

          Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

          Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

          Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Jolly
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            From the CDC:

            New HIV Diagnoses Among Adults and Adolescents in the
            US and Dependent Areas by Transmission Category, 2019

            Transmission Category Males Females Total
            Male-to-male sexual contact 24,084 NA 24,084
            Injection drug use 1,397 1,111 2,508
            Male-to-male sexual contact
            and injection drug use 1,468 NA 1,468
            Heterosexual contact 2,754 5,863 8,617
            Perinatal 14 21 35
            Others 23 5 28

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

              Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

              Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

              MikM Away
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              Mik
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              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

              Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

              Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

              Your ability to miss the point and go down unproductive rabbit trails is legendary.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I think the above is clear evidence where the primary repository of HIV+ exists.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                  are just dispensible cogs in the machine.

                  Well, yeah. Welcome to business.

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                  Jolly
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                  #17

                  @aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                    Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                    Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

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                    Axtremus
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                    @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                    Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                    Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                      Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                      Your ability to miss the point and go down unproductive rabbit trails is legendary.

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                      Axtremus
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                      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                      Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                      Your ability to miss the point …

                      Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                        Interesting. The people that busted their ass in N95's, paper gowns and nitrile gloves are just dispensible cogs in the machine. In the most hands-on of all businesses, I guess some hands are not wanted or needed.

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                        @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                        How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                          Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                          Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

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                          Jolly
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                          #21

                          @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                          Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                          Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

                          Several, at first. Less as time went on. I mentioned the sixteen year-old, because that happened on my watch, so it's not some esoteric exercise. I don't know if the post-exposure treatment kept her from getting HIV or not.

                          But why run the risk in the first place? Just to satisfy your silky ass notions of equity or gay pride?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                            How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.

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                            Jolly
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                            @89th said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                            How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.

                            About 30%, at least in my neck of the woods.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                              Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                              Your ability to miss the point …

                              Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

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                              Jolly
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                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                              Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                              Your ability to miss the point …

                              Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                              Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                              Your ability to miss the point …

                              Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                              Damn, you're smart!😂😂

                              Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Larry
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                                #24

                                If they could test for stupidity, Ax wouldn't be allowed to give blood at all.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                  Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                  Your ability to miss the point …

                                  Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                  Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                  Your ability to miss the point …

                                  Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                  Damn, you're smart!😂😂

                                  Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.

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                                  Larry
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                                  @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                  Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                  Your ability to miss the point …

                                  Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                  Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                  Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                  Your ability to miss the point …

                                  Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                  Damn, you're smart!😂😂

                                  Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.

                                  He's just pissed off because he's had at least a month to offer up even one tiny little reason to be proud of Joe Biden and he can't do it...

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.

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                                    @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                    @aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.

                                    A lot of professions have become terrible politicized as of late. 😞

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
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                                      #27

                                      I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                        Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                        Your ability to miss the point …

                                        Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                        Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                        Your ability to miss the point …

                                        Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

                                        Damn, you're smart!😂😂

                                        Do you not see how out of touch with real life you are at times? I don't see how you function in society.

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                                        @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        I don't see how you function in society.

                                        AX: Mom,let me introduce my girlfriend.

                                        MOM: You couldn't find anything better?

                                        AX: Leave me alone, I love her.

                                        MOM: Shut up! I'm speaking to her.

                                        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs

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                                          @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                          I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs

                                          Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.

                                          Please love yourself.

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