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The hammer came down yesterday.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #30

    @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

    @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

    Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

    Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

    Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

    Hey, shithead, I don't question Jon's knowledge of finance, Mik's expertise in legacy hospital information systems, Aqua's power of the pen, George's knowledge of how to pass gas or LuFin's knowledge of the current piano market. I've spent 41 years in the clinical lab biz, with a three year stint in immunohematology. Shit, I'm sitting in a hospital as I type this, jaw-jacking with the lab staff...About a fourth of them used to work for me.

    If I'm going to hang a unit on a patient, I want it to the best I can give them. Admittedly, COVID has thrown a monkey-wrench into things. I had a bleeder last weekend that I could not get A neg for...I told the doc to put a cork in him and we would try to get some blood out of Texas. Luckily, we did, about the time his hgb hit 7. If not, I'd already made the decision to use A POS and try to keep him alive until we could find blood or the antibodies kicked in on subsequent units and killed him. Why no O neg, you say? Solid gold, friend. We're in such a bind for the universal donor emergency stuff, we treat it like the jewel it is. Usually, when you change types to something else compatible you hang with it, but you can't hang what you ain't got.

    The doc makes the final decisions, but there are times when the best advice I can give, is crappy advice. But, c'est la vie.

    Now, tell me what you know about crossmatch procedures and compatible blood. I've got a family if Bombay's in the area and I'd love to hear your learned thoughts.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs

      Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #31

      @aqua-letifer said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

      I think it's an empty threat when every hospital in the nation is screaming for RNs

      Never underestimate the potential for stupidity among bean-counters and decision-makers.

      Preach on. I remember the old days, when doctors ran hospitals ... Not that it was all sunshine and roses, but at least we knew why we were there.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #32

        True, but there are still a lot of medical folks in upper management.

        I stand by my statement. When push comes to show they cannot lose 30%, or even 10%, of their nursing staff.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #33

          I don't think they will. I think guys will raise Cain, but the hospital pays better than other nursing jobs, at least most of the time. I think you'll actually see 3-5%.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #34

            We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

            I was only joking

            LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

              LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #35

              @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

              We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

              No testing option?

              The Brad

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #36

                Wait until they figure out that most nurses are female.

                That will make this mandate misogyny

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                  We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                  No testing option?

                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #37

                  @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                  @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                  We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                  No testing option?

                  Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                  I was only joking

                  HoraceH Aqua LetiferA 2 Replies Last reply
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                    No testing option?

                    Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #38

                    @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                    No testing option?

                    Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                    Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                      No testing option?

                      Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #39

                      @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                      No testing option?

                      Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                      Wife's company basically had the same policy.

                      Her employer has employees all across the country. Prior to the policy update, the vaccination rate was already 90% company-wide.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                        No testing option?

                        Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                        Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #40

                        @horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                        No testing option?

                        Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                        Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                        He's getting vaccinated.

                        I was only joking

                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                          No testing option?

                          Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                          Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                          He's getting vaccinated.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins DadL Offline
                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #41

                          @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                          No testing option?

                          Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                          Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                          He's getting vaccinated.

                          Curious about something and you might be the perfect person to ask…

                          Let’s say an employee is on the record as being against the vaccine, but under the threat of being placed on unpaid leave they get the vaccine. As shitty ass luck would have it, they wind up being part of the .0025% that die from the vaccine. Is there a threat of damages on the company? Obviously there wouldn’t be under the OSHA mandate but since that has been suspended it is now an employer position…

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                            No testing option?

                            Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                            Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                            He's getting vaccinated.

                            Curious about something and you might be the perfect person to ask…

                            Let’s say an employee is on the record as being against the vaccine, but under the threat of being placed on unpaid leave they get the vaccine. As shitty ass luck would have it, they wind up being part of the .0025% that die from the vaccine. Is there a threat of damages on the company? Obviously there wouldn’t be under the OSHA mandate but since that has been suspended it is now an employer position…

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor PhibesD Online
                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                            #42

                            @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @horace said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @lufins-dad said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            We fired a lab technician last week for not being vacc'd. People who can work from home were given 5 days to declare their intentions, and until the end of the year to get the shot.

                            No testing option?

                            Only if you're excepted for medical or religious exemption.

                            Didn't one of your reports try for a religious exemption? How did that work out?

                            He's getting vaccinated.

                            Curious about something and you might be the perfect person to ask…

                            Let’s say an employee is on the record as being against the vaccine, but under the threat of being placed on unpaid leave they get the vaccine. As shitty ass luck would have it, they wind up being part of the .0025% that die from the vaccine. Is there a threat of damages on the company? Obviously there wouldn’t be under the OSHA mandate but since that has been suspended it is now an employer position…

                            I'm staying well away from that.

                            I'm an engineer, Jim, not a lawyer. My strategy is to have as absolutely as little involvement as is humanly possible.

                            I was only joking

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                              Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                              Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

                              Hey, shithead, I don't question Jon's knowledge of finance, Mik's expertise in legacy hospital information systems, Aqua's power of the pen, George's knowledge of how to pass gas or LuFin's knowledge of the current piano market. I've spent 41 years in the clinical lab biz, with a three year stint in immunohematology. Shit, I'm sitting in a hospital as I type this, jaw-jacking with the lab staff...About a fourth of them used to work for me.

                              If I'm going to hang a unit on a patient, I want it to the best I can give them. Admittedly, COVID has thrown a monkey-wrench into things. I had a bleeder last weekend that I could not get A neg for...I told the doc to put a cork in him and we would try to get some blood out of Texas. Luckily, we did, about the time his hgb hit 7. If not, I'd already made the decision to use A POS and try to keep him alive until we could find blood or the antibodies kicked in on subsequent units and killed him. Why no O neg, you say? Solid gold, friend. We're in such a bind for the universal donor emergency stuff, we treat it like the jewel it is. Usually, when you change types to something else compatible you hang with it, but you can't hang what you ain't got.

                              The doc makes the final decisions, but there are times when the best advice I can give, is crappy advice. But, c'est la vie.

                              Now, tell me what you know about crossmatch procedures and compatible blood. I've got a family if Bombay's in the area and I'd love to hear your learned thoughts.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #43

                              @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                              Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                              Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                              Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

                              Hey, shithead, I don't question Jon's knowledge of finance, Mik's expertise in legacy hospital information systems, Aqua's power of the pen, George's knowledge of how to pass gas or LuFin's knowledge of the current piano market. I've spent 41 years in the clinical lab biz, with a three year stint in immunohematology. Shit, I'm sitting in a hospital as I type this, jaw-jacking with the lab staff...About a fourth of them used to work for me.

                              If I'm going to hang a unit on a patient, I want it to the best I can give them. Admittedly, COVID has thrown a monkey-wrench into things. I had a bleeder last weekend that I could not get A neg for...I told the doc to put a cork in him and we would try to get some blood out of Texas. Luckily, we did, about the time his hgb hit 7. If not, I'd already made the decision to use A POS and try to keep him alive until we could find blood or the antibodies kicked in on subsequent units and killed him. Why no O neg, you say? Solid gold, friend. We're in such a bind for the universal donor emergency stuff, we treat it like the jewel it is. Usually, when you change types to something else compatible you hang with it, but you can't hang what you ain't got.

                              The doc makes the final decisions, but there are times when the best advice I can give, is crappy advice. But, c'est la vie.

                              Now, tell me what you know about crossmatch procedures and compatible blood. I've got a family if Bombay's in the area and I'd love to hear your learned thoughts.

                              Well, I guess the little slant-eyed bastard doesn't know a fucking thing about running a blood bank, unit allocation, unexpected antibodies, eluates or even how to watch a button slide or shake off the bottom of a blood bank tube.

                              Don't spit on my porch again, asshole.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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