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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #9

    Thanks for your excellent explanation, @jon-nyc .
    Didn’t realize that the vaccine efficacy data look so grim for transplant survivors on immunosuppressants. Here’s hoping for robust T-cell and B-cell responses for this population.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #10

      6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        #11

        Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

        So N95 for the foreseeable future?

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          #12

          By the way, the UK announced they’ll be offering a 3rd shot to over-50s in the fall. That makes me feel more comfortable going “off-label” and securing a 3rd and possibly a 4th shot.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          • MikM Mik

            Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

            So N95 for the foreseeable future?

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            jon-nyc
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            #13

            @mik Just ordered some more.

            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #14

              Yeah, I would not hesitate to get another shot or two. Especially since it is getting easier to do so.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                jon-nyc
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                #15

                Dose 3 scheduled at 10:45. A rite aid in the Bronx.

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  #16

                  @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                  Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                    Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #17

                    @axtremus Give up I shall not.

                    Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                      #18

                      I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

                        I was only joking

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #20

                          Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

                            I was only joking

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                              Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                  Decent box, decent test.

                                  Hope the next shot works better for you...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #25

                                    The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                                    Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Hopkins' summary of second shot data is out in Jama today.

                                      Summary: the percentage of people showing an antibody response jumped from ~15% to ~54%. Though the response levels were quite a bit below immunocompetent people.

                                      All in all decent news, and gives me hope for my 3rd shot.

                                      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779852

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                        @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                                          @axtremus said in Hey Jon:

                                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

                                          Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

                                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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