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  • KlausK Klaus

    Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

    Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

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    @klaus said in Hey Jon:

    Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

    Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

    Well the response is dose dependent so something like that. The problem is no institution will do that today except as part of a registered clinical trial.

    I’ll likely do it my own sneaky way at some point. Keep in mind there’s still hope for a B-cell and T-cell response.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Maybe you find this interesting? Maybe you've already seen it.

      https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/covid-19-vaccines-may-protect-many-not-all-people-suppressed-immune-systems?utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_source=Contractor&utm_medium=Twitter

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      @klaus hadn’t seen that science piece but it reports on the same Johns Hopkins study

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        That piece in science says they saw some improvement after dose 2 and that their data will be out shortly.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          Thanks for your excellent explanation, @jon-nyc .
          Didn’t realize that the vaccine efficacy data look so grim for transplant survivors on immunosuppressants. Here’s hoping for robust T-cell and B-cell responses for this population.

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            6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

              So N95 for the foreseeable future?

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                By the way, the UK announced they’ll be offering a 3rd shot to over-50s in the fall. That makes me feel more comfortable going “off-label” and securing a 3rd and possibly a 4th shot.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

                  So N95 for the foreseeable future?

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                  @mik Just ordered some more.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    Yeah, I would not hesitate to get another shot or two. Especially since it is getting easier to do so.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      Dose 3 scheduled at 10:45. A rite aid in the Bronx.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                        Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                          Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                          @axtremus Give up I shall not.

                          Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

                              I was only joking

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                                Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                  The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                                      @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                        6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                        Decent box, decent test.

                                        Hope the next shot works better for you...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                                          Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                                          The Brad

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