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  • KlausK Klaus

    Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

    Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

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    @klaus said in Hey Jon:

    Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

    Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

    Well the response is dose dependent so something like that. The problem is no institution will do that today except as part of a registered clinical trial.

    I’ll likely do it my own sneaky way at some point. Keep in mind there’s still hope for a B-cell and T-cell response.

    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Maybe you find this interesting? Maybe you've already seen it.

      https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/covid-19-vaccines-may-protect-many-not-all-people-suppressed-immune-systems?utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_source=Contractor&utm_medium=Twitter

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      @klaus hadn’t seen that science piece but it reports on the same Johns Hopkins study

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        #8

        That piece in science says they saw some improvement after dose 2 and that their data will be out shortly.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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          Thanks for your excellent explanation, @jon-nyc .
          Didn’t realize that the vaccine efficacy data look so grim for transplant survivors on immunosuppressants. Here’s hoping for robust T-cell and B-cell responses for this population.

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            6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

              So N95 for the foreseeable future?

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                By the way, the UK announced they’ll be offering a 3rd shot to over-50s in the fall. That makes me feel more comfortable going “off-label” and securing a 3rd and possibly a 4th shot.

                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

                  So N95 for the foreseeable future?

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                  @mik Just ordered some more.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    Yeah, I would not hesitate to get another shot or two. Especially since it is getting easier to do so.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      Dose 3 scheduled at 10:45. A rite aid in the Bronx.

                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                        Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                          Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                          @axtremus Give up I shall not.

                          Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

                          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                            I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

                              I was only joking

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                                Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

                                If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                  The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

                                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                                      @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                        6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                        Decent box, decent test.

                                        Hope the next shot works better for you...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                                          Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                                          The Brad

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