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  • KlausK Klaus

    Maybe you find this interesting? Maybe you've already seen it.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/covid-19-vaccines-may-protect-many-not-all-people-suppressed-immune-systems?utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_source=Contractor&utm_medium=Twitter

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    @klaus hadn’t seen that science piece but it reports on the same Johns Hopkins study

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      That piece in science says they saw some improvement after dose 2 and that their data will be out shortly.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Thanks for your excellent explanation, @jon-nyc .
        Didn’t realize that the vaccine efficacy data look so grim for transplant survivors on immunosuppressants. Here’s hoping for robust T-cell and B-cell responses for this population.

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          6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

            So N95 for the foreseeable future?

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              By the way, the UK announced they’ll be offering a 3rd shot to over-50s in the fall. That makes me feel more comfortable going “off-label” and securing a 3rd and possibly a 4th shot.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Mik

                Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

                So N95 for the foreseeable future?

                jon-nycJ Online
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                @mik Just ordered some more.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  Yeah, I would not hesitate to get another shot or two. Especially since it is getting easier to do so.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Dose 3 scheduled at 10:45. A rite aid in the Bronx.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                      Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                        Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                        @axtremus Give up I shall not.

                        Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

                            I was only joking

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                              Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                                    @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                      6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                      Decent box, decent test.

                                      Hope the next shot works better for you...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                                        Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                                        The Brad

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                                          Hopkins' summary of second shot data is out in Jama today.

                                          Summary: the percentage of people showing an antibody response jumped from ~15% to ~54%. Though the response levels were quite a bit below immunocompetent people.

                                          All in all decent news, and gives me hope for my 3rd shot.

                                          https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779852

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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