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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
    Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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    jon-nyc
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    @axtremus Give up I shall not.

    Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

        I was only joking

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          Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

            I was only joking

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              Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                  Decent box, decent test.

                  Hope the next shot works better for you...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #25

                    The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                    Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                    The Brad

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                      Hopkins' summary of second shot data is out in Jama today.

                      Summary: the percentage of people showing an antibody response jumped from ~15% to ~54%. Though the response levels were quite a bit below immunocompetent people.

                      All in all decent news, and gives me hope for my 3rd shot.

                      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779852

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                          @axtremus said in Hey Jon:

                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

                          Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            I’m sorry to hear that jon.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Well, crap.😕

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Tuesday I go to my friend’s lab at Columbia and she’s going to test for T cell response and check actual antibody titers, neither of which are offered commercially from what I can tell.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  How do you handle things in the meantime? N95 and gloves?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @axtremus said in Hey Jon:

                                    @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

                                    Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                    Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

                                    Wow. Just wow.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Wish I could give him a few. I ran mine yesterday and they were almost 10,000 units. Positive is over 1000. I ran them on an Atellica IM platform. It's a total antibody test, so may not be as good as Jon's friend's test. Does have the advantage of ten minutes box time.

                                      I don't think docs utilize the test as much as they need to, especially in older, vaccinated patients. But that gets into the vaccination/T-cell debate...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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