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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
    Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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    jon-nyc
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    @axtremus Give up I shall not.

    Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

        I was only joking

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          Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

            I was only joking

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              Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                  6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                  Decent box, decent test.

                  Hope the next shot works better for you...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    #25

                    The good news is that you can sell the extra Vaccination Card on the black market for good $$!

                    Seriously, thoughts and prayers are with you!

                    The Brad

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                      Hopkins' summary of second shot data is out in Jama today.

                      Summary: the percentage of people showing an antibody response jumped from ~15% to ~54%. Though the response levels were quite a bit below immunocompetent people.

                      All in all decent news, and gives me hope for my 3rd shot.

                      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2779852

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

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                          @axtremus said in Hey Jon:

                          @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

                          Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            I’m sorry to hear that jon.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Well, crap.😕

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Tuesday I go to my friend’s lab at Columbia and she’s going to test for T cell response and check actual antibody titers, neither of which are offered commercially from what I can tell.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  How do you handle things in the meantime? N95 and gloves?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @axtremus said in Hey Jon:

                                    @jon-nyc , just curious if there's been any more optimistic development with regards to your antibody response or T-cell memory or whatever. How has it been since the 3rd shot?

                                    Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                    Twenty days after shot three I was antibody negative on the Labcorp test. :((

                                    Wow. Just wow.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Wish I could give him a few. I ran mine yesterday and they were almost 10,000 units. Positive is over 1000. I ran them on an Atellica IM platform. It's a total antibody test, so may not be as good as Jon's friend's test. Does have the advantage of ten minutes box time.

                                      I don't think docs utilize the test as much as they need to, especially in older, vaccinated patients. But that gets into the vaccination/T-cell debate...

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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