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  • brendaB Offline
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    Jon, it would be worth getting the additional shots. My completely unprofessional advice is that it shouldn't hurt you, and it might be the only way to build immunity. I wish you the best results as you go forward, and it's great you have excellent professional support for your options.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

      Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

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      jon-nyc
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      @klaus said in Hey Jon:

      Wow, that sucks. I'm sorry to hear that.

      Would it make a difference if you'd increase the volume of a dose? Like, take three shots at once?

      Well the response is dose dependent so something like that. The problem is no institution will do that today except as part of a registered clinical trial.

      I’ll likely do it my own sneaky way at some point. Keep in mind there’s still hope for a B-cell and T-cell response.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Maybe you find this interesting? Maybe you've already seen it.

        https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/04/covid-19-vaccines-may-protect-many-not-all-people-suppressed-immune-systems?utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_source=Contractor&utm_medium=Twitter

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        #7

        @klaus hadn’t seen that science piece but it reports on the same Johns Hopkins study

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #8

          That piece in science says they saw some improvement after dose 2 and that their data will be out shortly.

          If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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            Thanks for your excellent explanation, @jon-nyc .
            Didn’t realize that the vaccine efficacy data look so grim for transplant survivors on immunosuppressants. Here’s hoping for robust T-cell and B-cell responses for this population.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

                So N95 for the foreseeable future?

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  By the way, the UK announced they’ll be offering a 3rd shot to over-50s in the fall. That makes me feel more comfortable going “off-label” and securing a 3rd and possibly a 4th shot.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Damn. Damn, damn, damn.

                    So N95 for the foreseeable future?

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #13

                    @mik Just ordered some more.

                    If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Yeah, I would not hesitate to get another shot or two. Especially since it is getting easier to do so.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        #15

                        Dose 3 scheduled at 10:45. A rite aid in the Bronx.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                          @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                          Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @jon-nyc, no word on T-cell and B-cell memories yet?
                            Sorry it looks like this makes you more dependent on others getting vaccinated, on herd immunity. 😞

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @axtremus Give up I shall not.

                            Have not yet done the check for B and T cell response.

                            If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              I’m in the waiting area now. Much more chill than in March at Javits. Lol

                              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                Jon, are you getting the same Pfizer shot, or have you considered mixing them up? I heard a discussion on the radio the other day that there's a theory that using different vaccines could increase their effectiveness. For obvious reasons, it's not something that was tested in development.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Thought about Moderna and discussed it with a few docs. They thought a Pfizer booster would be better.

                                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                    The theory is that two different vaccines is a bit like showing your immune systems two different profiles of the same face. It made sense to my totally uneducated brain, but those damn doctors probably know better.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

                                      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Well, they just thought that, since the Pfizer response is dose dependent, it would be the most straightforward way.

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                                        @jon-nyc sending positive thoughts (and antibodies) to you!

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Hey Jon:

                                          6 weeks after shot 2. Sigh.

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                                          Decent box, decent test.

                                          Hope the next shot works better for you...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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