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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

    Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

    “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

    But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

    MSM deluge.

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

    @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

    Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

    “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

    But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

    MSM deluge.

    Well I was close.

    Please love yourself.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack, but so was a lot of those that voted for or against impeachment. He bears some more individual responsibility but less than they do in aggregate.

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      Renauda
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      #30

      @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

      Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

      Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

      Move along, nothing to see.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

        Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

        Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

        Move along, nothing to see.

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        Horace
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        #31

        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

        @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

        Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

        Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

        Move along, nothing to see.

        What words would you use to describe what happened?

        Education is extremely important.

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          Renauda
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          #32

          A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

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            Horace
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            #33

            @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

            Putsch

            "a violent attempt to overthrow a government"

            You previously disavowed insurrection and coup. I sense some cognitive dissonance.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Renauda
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              #34

              Like I already stated, I really don't care.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                Like I already stated, I really don't care.

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                Horace
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                #35

                @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                Like I already said, I really don't care.

                You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  From an historical perspective, can you compare this putsch with other historical putsch attempts? Is there an historical analogue to establish that this was a "putsch"?

                  jon, you're up here too. You're an amazing historian.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                    Like I already said, I really don't care.

                    You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.

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                    Renauda
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                    #37

                    @horace

                    If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                    Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                    Elbows up!

                    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @horace

                      If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                      Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                      HoraceH Online
                      HoraceH Online
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                      @horace

                      If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                      Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                      It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                      What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                        @horace

                        If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                        Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                        It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                        What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

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                        Renauda
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                        #39

                        @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                        @horace

                        If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                        Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                        It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                        What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                        You know something, Horace?

                        You're probably right.

                        Elbows up!

                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                          @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                          @horace

                          If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                          Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                          It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                          What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                          You know something, Horace?

                          You're probably right.

                          HoraceH Online
                          HoraceH Online
                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                          @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                          @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                          @horace

                          If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                          Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                          It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                          What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                          You know something, Horace?

                          You're probably right.

                          Thank you Renauda. I am waiting for the rest of the forum to line up with that sentiment. Then my project here will be complete.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                            A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                            Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                              A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                              Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                              HoraceH Online
                              HoraceH Online
                              Horace
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                              #42

                              @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                              @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                              A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                              Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                              It was surreal to watch the lack of outrage over that. A neighborhood taken over by a violent leftist mob, the police fleeing because they knew they could not do their jobs. Who the fuck said anything? Some here even made fun of those who thought it was a big deal. Leftists are fucked in the head.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                                Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                                It was surreal to watch the lack of outrage over that. A neighborhood taken over by a violent leftist mob, the police fleeing because they knew they could not do their jobs. Who the fuck said anything? Some here even made fun of those who thought it was a big deal. Leftists are fucked in the head.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #43

                                @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                                Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                                It was surreal to watch the lack of outrage over that. A neighborhood taken over by a violent leftist mob, the police fleeing because they knew they could not do their jobs. Who the fuck said anything? Some here even made fun of those who thought it was a big deal. Leftists are fucked in the head.

                                Remember the stories of how women were being raped and attacked and the police couldn't do anything? But that doesn't compare to some dude sitting in Pelosi's chair...

                                The Brad

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                                  Loki
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                                  #44

                                  I don’t see any healing going on. It’s all about revenge. Just remember that for the future, it’s being written as we speak.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    I don’t see any healing going on. It’s all about revenge. Just remember that for the future, it’s being written as we speak.

                                    HoraceH Online
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #45

                                    @loki said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                    I don’t see any healing going on. It’s all about revenge. Just remember that for the future, it’s being written as we speak.

                                    Revenge is whataboutism.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @horace

                                      If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                      Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                      It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                      What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

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                                      Copper
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                                      #46

                                      @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs,

                                      If they had only busted a few heads.

                                      Mr. Trump would be receiving the Peace Prize.

                                      And the doofuses would be heroic martyrs.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                        @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                        @horace

                                        If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                        Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                        It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                        What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                                        You know something, Horace?

                                        You're probably right.

                                        Thank you Renauda. I am waiting for the rest of the forum to line up with that sentiment. Then my project here will be complete.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #47

                                        @horace

                                        You're welcome.

                                        Now excuse me while I go back to disdainful mockery and complacent apathy towards the reactionary doofery surrounding me.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          A representative should reflect the views and desires of his constituency. That's what they are elected to do.

                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          Axtremus
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                                          #48

                                          @mik said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                          A representative should reflect the views and desires of his constituency. That's what they are elected to do.

                                          The $1.9T economic stimulus bill enjoys support from 70% of Americans, yet every single Republican legislator voted against it.

                                          https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/03/09/broad-public-support-for-coronavirus-aid-package-just-a-third-say-it-spends-too-much/

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