Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me
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Then you get some issues like 83% of American support "universal background check" as a gun control measure, yet the elected representatives don't vote that way.
The notion of "constituent" is also tricky.
The 'party system' also gets in the way. Should a Senator represent the will of the entire state pollution, or just the ones who voted for him, or even just the ones who voted for him in the primaries? Who, exactly, are the Senator's "constituents"?
Ideally a Senator should reflect the will of the entire state's population, but practically if he wants to be reelected he cannot lose in the primaries, which means s/he has to cater to the will of his party.
To make this concrete, if 55% of a state's general population thinks Trump should be convicted, but a Senator from that state happens to be a Republican and 65% of the Republicans in that state thinks Trump should not be convicted, then the Senator in practice would have to first cater to the 65% of the Republicans so s/he can win the next primary election before catering to the 55% of the state's general population who thinks Trump should be convicted.
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Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
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Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
TDS
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@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
TDS
@aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
TDS
It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald. -
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
MSM deluge.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
TDS
It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald.@loki said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
TDS
It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald.Worst losers ever
Worst winners ever -
50%of those polled would have said Trump should be prohibited from ever holding public office if asked on January 5th.....2017.
Let’s not pretend that there has been some massive shift in opinion.
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Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack, but so was a lot of those that voted for or against impeachment. He bears some more individual responsibility but less than they do in aggregate.
The Brad
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@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
MSM deluge.
@jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH“(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.
But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”
MSM deluge.
Well I was close.
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Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack, but so was a lot of those that voted for or against impeachment. He bears some more individual responsibility but less than they do in aggregate.
@lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...
Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.
Move along, nothing to see.
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@lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...
Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.
Move along, nothing to see.
@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...
Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.
Move along, nothing to see.
What words would you use to describe what happened?
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A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.
Elbows up!
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A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.
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@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Like I already said, I really don't care.
You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.
Education is extremely important.
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@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
Like I already said, I really don't care.
You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.
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If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.
Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.
@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.
Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.
It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.
What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.
Education is extremely important.
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@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.
Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.
It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.
What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.
@horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
@renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:
If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.
Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.
It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.
What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.
You know something, Horace?
You're probably right.
