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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

    “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

    But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

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    Aqua Letifer
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    #23

    @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

    Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

    “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

    But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

    TDS

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

      Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

      “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

      But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

      TDS

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      Loki
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      #24

      @aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

      @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

      Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

      “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

      But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

      TDS

      It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
      When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald.

      CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

        “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

        But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

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        Jolly
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        #25

        @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

        Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

        “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

        But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

        MSM deluge.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          @aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

          @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

          Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

          “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

          But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

          TDS

          It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
          When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald.

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          Copper
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          #26

          @loki said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

          @aqua-letifer said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

          @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

          Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

          “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

          But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

          TDS

          It’s over. Can’t we keep it that way? Since the loss Ax seems to want to keep sending notes that somehow prove the dems won.
          When you lose you lose, right? He’s pulling a Donald.

          Worst losers ever
          Worst winners ever

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            LuFins Dad
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            #27

            50%of those polled would have said Trump should be prohibited from ever holding public office if asked on January 5th.....2017.

            Let’s not pretend that there has been some massive shift in opinion.

            The Brad

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              LuFins Dad
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              #28

              Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack, but so was a lot of those that voted for or against impeachment. He bears some more individual responsibility but less than they do in aggregate.

              The Brad

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

                “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

                But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

                MSM deluge.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #29

                @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                @axtremus said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                Poll: Most Americans think Trump at least partially responsible for Capitol attack
                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/poll-most-americans-think-trump-at-least-partially-responsible-for-capitol-attack-idUSKBN2AD0LH

                “(Reuters) - Seventy-one percent of American adults, including nearly half of all Republicans, believe former President Donald Trump was at least partially responsible for starting the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, according to an Ipsos poll conducted for Reuters.

                But the national online poll, released on Saturday, also showed that a smaller proportion -- only about half of the country -- thinks Trump should be convicted of inciting insurrection at his Senate impeachment trial or barred from holding public office again.”

                MSM deluge.

                Well I was close.

                Please love yourself.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack, but so was a lot of those that voted for or against impeachment. He bears some more individual responsibility but less than they do in aggregate.

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                  Renauda
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                  #30

                  @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                  Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

                  Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

                  Move along, nothing to see.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                    Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

                    Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

                    Move along, nothing to see.

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                    HoraceH Online
                    Horace
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                    #31

                    @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                    @lufins-dad said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                    Oh, and Trump was somewhat responsible for the attack...

                    Attack, what attack? We have it on impeccable authority that it was just a few doofuses taking selfies.

                    Move along, nothing to see.

                    What words would you use to describe what happened?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Renauda
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                      #32

                      A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

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                        Horace
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                        #33

                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                        Putsch

                        "a violent attempt to overthrow a government"

                        You previously disavowed insurrection and coup. I sense some cognitive dissonance.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Renauda
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                          #34

                          Like I already stated, I really don't care.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Like I already stated, I really don't care.

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                            Horace
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                            #35

                            @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                            Like I already said, I really don't care.

                            You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Horace
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                              #36

                              From an historical perspective, can you compare this putsch with other historical putsch attempts? Is there an historical analogue to establish that this was a "putsch"?

                              jon, you're up here too. You're an amazing historian.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                Like I already said, I really don't care.

                                You care enough to make fun of the "a few doofuses taking selfies" characterization. At least a couple times that I've seen.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #37

                                @horace

                                If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @horace

                                  If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                  Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

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                                  HoraceH Online
                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                  @horace

                                  If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                  Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                  It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                  What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                    @horace

                                    If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                    Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                    It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                    What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #39

                                    @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                    @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                    @horace

                                    If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                    Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                    It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                    What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                                    You know something, Horace?

                                    You're probably right.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                                      @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @horace

                                      If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                      Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                      It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                      What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                                      You know something, Horace?

                                      You're probably right.

                                      HoraceH Online
                                      HoraceH Online
                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #40

                                      @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @horace said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                      @horace

                                      If what happened on 6 January can be falsely reduced to a few doofuses taking selfies it can just as easily and, inaccurately, be inflated into a putsch.

                                      Besides, it's fun to mock doofuses.

                                      It was definitely a few doofuses taking selfies in the Capitol, having entered through the unguarded doors.

                                      What's really sad is that the police weren't motivated to do their jobs, due to the precedent established by left-leaning pop culture and its condemnation of any law enforcement action against the BLM riots in 2020.

                                      You know something, Horace?

                                      You're probably right.

                                      Thank you Renauda. I am waiting for the rest of the forum to line up with that sentiment. Then my project here will be complete.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

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                                        Jolly
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                                        #41

                                        @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                        A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                                        Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                          A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                                          Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #42

                                          @jolly said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                          @renauda said in Trump Senate defense: the American people already rejected me:

                                          A few come to mind. Given the make up of the mob, I'll settle for Putsch. I may be wrong but I also may be right. I really don't care.

                                          Nah, that happened in CHAZ.

                                          It was surreal to watch the lack of outrage over that. A neighborhood taken over by a violent leftist mob, the police fleeing because they knew they could not do their jobs. Who the fuck said anything? Some here even made fun of those who thought it was a big deal. Leftists are fucked in the head.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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